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Record Breaking Number of Journalists Arrested in the U.S. This Year

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Post by dawnerd »

user764743 wrote: post #131
cronix wrote: post #96

All you need to do is write "press" in sharpie somewhere visible on your person and upload cell phone videos to youtube, twitch, dlive, etc. to be considered a "journalist" in 2020. Maybe set up a venmo/cashapp account. That's what the vast majority of live streamers in Portland do covering the riots, and most who were arrested were breaking the law. There are many more "livestreamers" than accredited journalists who…

"Journalist Andy Ngo" That's a good one, you mean the man who constantly steals the work of other journalists and pass it off as his own? The same 'journalist' who passed on kill lists of protesters' names to neo-nazi groups [0]? You need better sources. [0] https://emilygorcenski.com/post/andy-ngo-and-the-atomwaffen-...

I was just going to say something similar. His stories are also to the point of being fabricated. Remember the "concrete milkshakes"?

He also posts parts of video clips that make conservatives look like the victims, but when you find the full clip you'll see they were the ones starting a fight.

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Post by golemotron »

BLO716 wrote: post #25

I'll dare to ask this, but what defines a "journalist" in the data points here? The Clark Kent types are the only ones I really understand that can live under that title - but with the advent of syndication and micro-journalism (to use a term I just made up) for regional markets that have no real local presence of classic journalism, interested to know what it means now. Here in Buffalo, could go many directions.

Journalism was a historical anomaly based on scarcity of distribution mechanisms. It was only professionalized for a short period of time in human history.

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

underseacables wrote: post #136
boopmaster wrote: post #128

This is because Black Lives Matter™, and because black lives matter. This isn’t a hyper escalation against freedom of the press, per se, it’s an escalation of police on citizen violence that came about when police felt threatened when folks got a little extra vocal about how the racist cops boys club has little to no accountability when harming citizens they’re supposed to protect. I think this narrowly focuses on tr…

When a journalist steps beyond being a journalist and turns into an activist, of course they’re going to get arrested if they break the law. Just because someone is a journalist does not give them a pass from breaking the law.

> Just because someone is a journalist does not give them a pass from breaking the law.

I’m entirely on the side of real journalism so it was interacting to see some people that thought a press badge meant they didn’t need to also follow police orders.

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Post by slowhand09 »

adamsea wrote: post #114
dukeofdoom wrote: post #81

Its clearly a product of the riots this year. If you watch any of the live streams on youtube from the protests, its the most retarded thing ever. Literal convicts, just let out of jail, at the forefront of a civil rights movement, screaming how Black Lives matter, and how they are privileged white males. Tell me some of them were not being paid to be there. Because generally convicts are the least empathetic people.…

> Literal convicts, just let out of jail, at the for front of a civil rights movement, screaming how Black Lives matter, and how they are privileged white males. The privileged white male convicts are running around screaming’Black lives matter.’ Got it :):):). Lol but seriously yes I would say it makes a lot of sense for anyone to scream that Black lives matter. That’s why we all were marching earlier and have signs…

Do you differentiate between BLM (because Blacks lives do matter) or the organization BLM which is a fundraising PAC for the predominant liberal party?

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Post by everdrive »

boopmaster wrote: post #128

This is because Black Lives Matter™, and because black lives matter. This isn’t a hyper escalation against freedom of the press, per se, it’s an escalation of police on citizen violence that came about when police felt threatened when folks got a little extra vocal about how the racist cops boys club has little to no accountability when harming citizens they’re supposed to protect. I think this narrowly focuses on tr…

>What the YoY stonks increase on Americans shot by rubber bullets?

What is a YoY stonk

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Post by smnrchrds »

underseacables wrote: post #136
boopmaster wrote: post #128

This is because Black Lives Matter™, and because black lives matter. This isn’t a hyper escalation against freedom of the press, per se, it’s an escalation of police on citizen violence that came about when police felt threatened when folks got a little extra vocal about how the racist cops boys club has little to no accountability when harming citizens they’re supposed to protect. I think this narrowly focuses on tr…

When a journalist steps beyond being a journalist and turns into an activist, of course they’re going to get arrested if they break the law. Just because someone is a journalist does not give them a pass from breaking the law.

Breaking the law like filming police violence for example:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/05/29/minneapolis-protest...

Watch the video and tell me how that arrest was justified.

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Post by pas »

underseacables wrote: post #136
boopmaster wrote: post #128

This is because Black Lives Matter™, and because black lives matter. This isn’t a hyper escalation against freedom of the press, per se, it’s an escalation of police on citizen violence that came about when police felt threatened when folks got a little extra vocal about how the racist cops boys club has little to no accountability when harming citizens they’re supposed to protect. I think this narrowly focuses on tr…

When a journalist steps beyond being a journalist and turns into an activist, of course they’re going to get arrested if they break the law. Just because someone is a journalist does not give them a pass from breaking the law.

Yes, well, of course, indubitably, those pesky activists with press passes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pti6ZiH7dQ

The age old crime of filming crime.

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Post by NDizzle »

pwinnski wrote: post #87
NDizzle wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I was arrested while livestreaming to Facebook I would be on their list of arrested journalists. Technically this means that a journalist was arrested in this situation, by their definition above: https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/04/us/chicago-facebook-live-beat...

No, you wouldn't. From the section you quoted above: “While we recognize the importance and the rights of the private citizen who snaps a photo or video of an arrest, this site will only cover individuals who self-identify as journalists and have some track record of journalistic work.“

"only cover individuals who self-identify"

We can self-identify as anything, man. “If you will it, it is no dream.” and all that jazz. (Theodor Herzl)

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Post by marricks »

chrisseaton wrote: post #134
tines wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How’s that? Seems like it’s just saying “we’re not going to treat you like a journalist if you don’t claim to be one, and you can’t claim to be one without having done any work before.”

If someone asks you for a definition of 'rabbit' and you tell them it's 'something that is rabbity' then they're going to ask you what is 'rabbity'... and likely you'd reply 'it's like a rabbit'. Goes in a circle, see? A journalist is someone who does journalistic things. What are journalistic things? Well they're things a journalist does.

I get what you're saying but "track record of journalistic work" is not as ambiguous as "rabbity". Unless they're being disingenuous one would reasonably expect that means published work or blog/social postings relating to current events.
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