Firefox 84.0 • Hacker News Board

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by mdoms » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 5:52 PM UTC

haxiomic wrote: post #94

mdoms wrote: post #65

And still no proper support for pinch to zoom or proper scrolling with touchscreen laptops or Windows touchpads. Every release I hope they will resolve this extremely basic feature. Every release I'm disappointed. Every other browser just works - I don't know if it's native functionality or if they put in the work - but Firefox is just absolutely rubbish here.

Check about:config apz.allow_zooming is set to true or do a fresh install and wipe all configs if that doesn’t do it, native pinch zoom was added in version 83

It's a fresh install and that's enabled. Let's be clear here: there is pinch to zoom. But it's an extremely half-assed implementation that is most certainly NOT native and feels terrible. I like Firefox but this has been a deal breaker for me for literally years. I don't understand why their zooming and scrolling can be so good on Android but so awful in Windows.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by eterm » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 5:52 PM UTC

jefftk wrote: post #9

And for developers: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Rel... The biggest change from my perspective is "Firefox now ensures that localhost URLs — such as http://localhost/ and http://dev.localhost/ — refer to the local host's loopback interface (e.g. http://127.0.0.1 ). As a result, resources loaded from localhost are now assumed to have been delivered securely (see Secure contexts), and also w…

That sounds great for local development. It sounds like a vector to keep an eye on for bug bounty hunters. Any time something is "assumed to be [...] secure" there's a good chance that assumption can be broken in some strange way in future.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by mdoms » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 5:52 PM UTC

WillYouFinish wrote: post #76

mdoms wrote: post #65

And still no proper support for pinch to zoom or proper scrolling with touchscreen laptops or Windows touchpads. Every release I hope they will resolve this extremely basic feature. Every release I'm disappointed. Every other browser just works - I don't know if it's native functionality or if they put in the work - but Firefox is just absolutely rubbish here.

Firefox has it at least since the last version. Probably it's disabled on your Firefox for some reason?

It's not native, it's a poor, buggy implementation.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by pitaj » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 5:53 PM UTC

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #81

CJefferson wrote: post #51

Is anyone else worried Firefox on Android is becoming increasingly unusable? How well supported is it my Mozilla I wonder. I often find pages render as blank pages until I refresh, and scrolling will often hang for multiple seconds. I was playing "Jackbox Games" (which is played via the web and PC), and I found those of us on Firefox found the text boxes were broken. Just downloading PDFs was broken for several weeks…

What's intriguing to me is no primary password support on FF Android and yet it allows sync with FF protected with a primary password. DDG using Webview with built in ad-blocker seems to be the fastest android web browser I've ever used. I wonder whether it uses Chrome's data compression. But FF Android supports extensions, at least most used ones and I hope with support for more extensions its adoption could grow.

No primary password support? What do you mean? Bitwarden via Android autofill framework works great for me with FF.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 5:53 PM UTC

johnchristopher wrote: post #79

jefftk wrote: post #9

And for developers: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Rel... The biggest change from my perspective is "Firefox now ensures that localhost URLs — such as http://localhost/ and http://dev.localhost/ — refer to the local host's loopback interface (e.g. http://127.0.0.1 ). As a result, resources loaded from localhost are now assumed to have been delivered securely (see Secure contexts), and also w…

Does it mean I can curl https://whatever.localhost without SSL warning for self signed certificates ? That would simplify my life when developing stuff on localhost and importing them between different things over http(s). edit: Kids, you see those articles that regularly hit the frontpage about work/life balance ? The ones about how you need healthy sleep patterns and crunching all night long is actually bad for you…

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Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by cpeterso » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 5:54 PM UTC

brianush1 wrote: post #72

distances wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the drama on Android? It's been working great for me for years now.

They removed about:config, for one

You can use about:config in Firefox Nightly for Android: https://support.mozilla.org/lt/questions/1300502

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by cpeterso » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 5:55 PM UTC

input_sh wrote: post #74

distances wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the drama on Android? It's been working great for me for years now.

They've completely redesigned it about a year ago, making it much faster, but losing add-on compatibility. So pretty much the same thing that happened to desktops on v57, except a bit worse: only 17 add-ons are currently available in nightly. Still more than what's available on Chrome and Safari on mobile, so it always remained my browser of choice on a phone.

You can install any add-on from addons.mozilla.org in Firefox Nightly for Android: https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2020/09/29/expanded-extensio...

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by edumucelli » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 5:55 PM UTC

The "new mozillians" link in the changelog is broken, just so that if someone works at Mozilla and wish to report https://blog.mozilla.org/community/2020/12/11/the-new-faces-...

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by rascul » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 6:01 PM UTC

jefftk wrote: post #9

And for developers: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Rel... The biggest change from my perspective is "Firefox now ensures that localhost URLs — such as http://localhost/ and http://dev.localhost/ — refer to the local host's loopback interface (e.g. http://127.0.0.1 ). As a result, resources loaded from localhost are now assumed to have been delivered securely (see Secure contexts), and also w…

Does this mean Firefox will ignore my hosts file entry?

  127.0.1.12  dev.localhost

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by dicytea » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 6:02 PM UTC

eska wrote: post #24

Mozilla FAQ: > Will switching to a different browser allow me to use Flash? >No. Adobe and other browsers will also end support Flash at the end of 2020. Even if you install an older version of Firefox, the Flash plugin itself will stop loading Flash content after January 12, 2021. See Adobe’s Flash Player End of Life information page for more details Adobe: > Since Adobe will no longer be supporting Flash Player aft…

>Adobe will block Flash content from running in Flash Player beginning January 12, 2021

What exactly does this mean?

Will the Flash Player projector still work after that date?

I still have some old files in my Flash archive that I would like to play occasionally, so I really hope that the projector does not have some kind of time bomb.