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Apple’s Anti-Tracking Plans for iPhone

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Re: Apple’s Anti-Tracking Plans for iPhone

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Why the IDFA was a thing in the first place? What I heard was that at some point of time, Apple had an ambition for own advertising business.

Go to your iOS 14 device settings and you'll find out that Apples own behavioural tracking is still there, still on by default.

It's now just split away from IDFA. Basically Apple is using this to attack competitors while leaving their own tracking on by default.

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Why don't they fully encrypt the icloud backups? Sent from my Huawei.

What do you think are the possible issues for full encryption of iCloud backups?

Pressure from the FBI, according to Reuters:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-fbi-icloud-exclusiv...

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Why don't they fully encrypt the icloud backups? Sent from my Huawei.

What do you think are the possible issues for full encryption of iCloud backups?

This is the issue with iCloud backups not being encrypted:

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-apple-fbi-icloud-exclusive...

Not saying I agree or disagree with it, but it's something worth highlighting

Re: Apple’s Anti-Tracking Plans for iPhone

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In Europe, cross-app, cross-browser & cross-device tracking is on very thin ice legally under the GDPR, so I'm not surprised Apple finally curbs the use of "sticky" identifiers on their devices. Honestly, it's a bit shameful that a device that is marketed as the gold standard in privacy would even support such an identifier in the first place, it has literally no purpose beyond mining peoples' data. Now that the thir…

    Now that the third-party tracking ecosystem is slowly drying out I'm curious what advertisers will come up with to circumvent these new measures.
Probably fingerprinting – not to mention the fact that ad-people are lobbying both legislators (including the EU) and standards bodies (like W3C)... and in the latter case they're also directly contributing to the standards.

Re: Apple’s Anti-Tracking Plans for iPhone

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In Europe, cross-app, cross-browser & cross-device tracking is on very thin ice legally under the GDPR, so I'm not surprised Apple finally curbs the use of "sticky" identifiers on their devices. Honestly, it's a bit shameful that a device that is marketed as the gold standard in privacy would even support such an identifier in the first place, it has literally no purpose beyond mining peoples' data. Now that the thir…

> shameful that a device that is marketed as the gold standard in privacy It's being marketed this way, that's it. It doesn't mean Apple care about privacy, and they prove every once in a while that they don't respect anyone's privacy at all. They spy on their users as much as anyone else (and overall, they have access to much more information than everybody else except Google). All they want to do is prevent third-p…

> "they don't respect anyone's privacy at all".

This is so dishonest.

Please familiarise yourself with Apple's history in consumer privacy and what they've done so far, including inadvertently forcing others to follow (looking at you Google).

https://youtu.be/08IC1AZTxls?t=2941

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This requires a facebook account, though they likely do have data from those not registered.

They absolutely do, and it sucks that there's no way to view it or request deletion.

Sure there is. If they’re holding personal data on you, they legally have to provide it (and optionally delete it) when issued with a Subject Access Request under GDPR.

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Do you think iPhone users care if it’s harder for Facebook and the like to catch fraud?

That's not what the GP is saying. They're saying that only Facebook and the like have the resources to catch fraud, and smaller players won't. Yes, it's harder, but that hardness is almost an irrelevance to Facebook and other FAANG-alikes, whereas it could be much more of a problem for smaller businesses who will struggle to bear the costs both of fraud, and to develop anti-fraud solutions (or pay for anti-fraud serv…

Market will catch up. I used Apache beam and we got really creative. As with all things it’s an arms race.

Re: Apple’s Anti-Tracking Plans for iPhone

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You can test your device browser fingerprint here: https://coveryourtracks.eff.org

It's BS and has been since forever https://games.greggman.com/game/panopticlick-hyperbole/ TL;DR they don't get enough traffic for the numbers to represent anything useful.

It may be BS, but that analysis seems too shallow to be at all convincing either. My big question is how much resolution you can get out of things like canvas finger printing and WebGL (or even sheer JS speed). Those are places where the analog reality underlying everything we develop on may peek through unless explicit (and inherently performance reducing) measures are taken. Even if two CPUs/GPUs/SoCs are fabricated on the same process and make it into the same bin, that doesn't make them identical in performance at the level finger printing cares about. In terms of user experience, essentially nobody is going to care about +/- single digit megahertz, or exactly how quickly upclocks/downclocks happen, or sub-1 FPS changes in edge case rendering or the like. But those could certainly leak bits that are unique to a specific chip, even between two devices that are "the same". Silicon fabrication is a probabilistic process, and bins are normally a matter of economics and performance not privacy.

Normally devs want everything running as fast as possible, and just leave it at that. But the more closely the software tracks the underlying hardware, the easier it would be to finger print too. And this is one area where iOS devices might well be at a disadvantage for a straight forward "best experience" implementation, precisely because they've put a lot of effort into minimizing things that can interfere with whatever is in the foreground.

I don't disagree that the relatively small (and undoubtedly skewed from the general population) size of the EFF's overall dataset is a limit for them, but "I have no idea but it seems fishy because my iPhone should be identical because I say so" isn't an analysis.

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> Apple plans to improve privacy on iPhone, but it’s already pushed back the implementation. We need a massive outpouring of support for Apple’s decision to help strengthen its resolve to protect consumer privacy. Tell Apple: I support your efforts to defend our privacy, and encourage you to implement the IDFA changes as soon as possible. Does anyone actually think that Apple cares at all about the few thousand peopl…

Apple probably doesn’t care, but this is necessary to change the press landscape. Right now the narrative is Apple is doing things to hurt Facebook - a million people signing this will change that narrative.

I don’t know…the optics of this make it look like a mildly pathetic beg for Apple to not back down on their anti-tracking efforts. I’m not sure Mozilla wants to look like that…

Re: Apple’s Anti-Tracking Plans for iPhone

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As a reminder, most popular Android apps send data to Facebook : https://9to5google.com/2018/12/31/android-apps-facebook/

As a reminder (from first hand experience with mobile development for major companies), the iOS versions of those apps do the same. Even more so, all of those tracking SDKs are targeting iOS first, Android second. Please don't feel safe on iOS just because Apple marketing is blasting misleading claims at you.

Sure..but they make sure you know about it before you install the app in the first place.

https://developer.apple.com/app-store/app-privacy-details/

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