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What has trump achieved on social media?
Mostly making a fool of himself.
Bypassing the traditional media. That's the real reason they hated it. They were no longer gatekeepers of the narrative.
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Mostly making a fool of himself.
You call it making a fool out of himself, I call it winning the Republican primary, getting 63 and later 74 million people to vote for him, winning one election, and coming within 100,000 votes of winning a second one, despite being a walking embodiment of anti-democracy. If it weren't for COVID-19, he might well have won. You shouldn't be laughing at him, and people like him. You should be scared of them.
It's certainly scary, especially all the threats.
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This is not posturing. The FTC is independent of any given administration.
Doesn't each administration appoint the chairman? That seems similar to saying the Supreme Court is independent. Maybe on paper, but certainly not statistically or in practice.
The commissioners are appointed for seven year terms, there have to be at least two members from each party, and both Democrats voted yes on this action. So while you're right that it's not entirely independent, in general (and definitely in this specific case) it's not right to see it as an extension of partisan politics either.
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#64Interesting, they have discord there. It's monetization strategy has been quite different than every other entity listed there. So far it's been mostly trying to sell stuff to their users. Pretty much every other company they list displays ads. Like even whats app now has plans for Ads.
Where are the ads in WhatsApp? I assume I'm lucky enough to have not been in the group they're showing ads to yet.
If I recall from the news on it that I have read it will start in India. Also there is going to be a terms of Service change this February.
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Doesn't each administration appoint the chairman? That seems similar to saying the Supreme Court is independent. Maybe on paper, but certainly not statistically or in practice.
The commissioners are appointed for seven year terms, there have to be at least two members from each party, and both Democrats voted yes on this action. So while you're right that it's not entirely independent, in general (and definitely in this specific case) it's not right to see it as an extension of partisan politics either.
I'll admit when I was wrong, let's hope this does lead to some actual change. I do think social media is absolutely cancer but I've sort of accepted it's going to be with us.
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#67From the dissenting opinion by Commissioner Noah Joshua Phillips:
> These are different companies, some of which have strikingly different business models. And the orders omit other companies engaged in business practices similar to recipients, for example, Apple, Gab, GroupMe, LinkedIn, Parler, Rumble, and Tumblr, not to mention other firms the data practices of which have drawn significant government concern, like WeChat. The only plausible benefit to drawing the lines the Commission has is targeting a number of high profile companies and, by limiting the number to nine, avoiding the review process required under the Paperwork Reduction Act, which is not triggered if fewer than ten entities are subject to requests.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't each administration appoint the chairman? That seems similar to saying the Supreme Court is independent. Maybe on paper, but certainly not statistically or in practice.
The commissioners are appointed for seven year terms, there have to be at least two members from each party, and both Democrats voted yes on this action. So while you're right that it's not entirely independent, in general (and definitely in this specific case) it's not right to see it as an extension of partisan politics either.
So then not Independent. if it was independent it would not have members of either party.
it is a bipartisan political entity used as a weapon by both corrupt and morally bankrupt political parties
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#69Here is the actual order (PDF warning): https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/reports/6b-orders... I would encourage everyone to read it. My personal take is that this is a ridiculous amount of homework to do in 45 days, and is essentially the FTC asking for not only these companies' "secret sauce" but also their confidential bookkeeping. I would be astounded if none of them challenged this order. For example, r…
I will say maybe not bad the deadline. Why? Well my theory is that legal fees and help would be higher (that's right higher) if a longer time period was given. Seems counter intuitive but that's my way of looking at it. (I guess in short maybe a version of 'work expands to fill the time available for completion something like that).
That said I don't feel bad for these companies at all. They have plenty of resources and plenty of money. And no reason they can't ask for and receive extensions of the time due there is no 'train leaving' at that time the info needs to board.
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#70I know FB and Whatsapp are on the list but why isn't Instagram there? That is the only one left out.