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Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Post by shadowgovt »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #19
just-juan-post wrote: post #10

How to open your own video or image hosting site: Step 1: Open the site, have no content, get no clicks Step 2: Pirate everyone else's content Step 3: Start getting clicks due to the pirated content Step 4: Continue to spin the flywheel putting more pirated and "user generated" content on your site Step 5: Start to get more and more legitimate partners Step 6: Start blocking porn and pirated content. The content that…

Step 8: someone new comes along, with their own steps 2-4 Step 9: people abandon you for the new site Step 10: you appear on lists, next to sites like Digg and Myspace

Step 9 hasn't happened to YouTube, and doesn't appear to be likely to happen in the near term.

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Post by 9dev »

disiplus wrote: post #61
headmelted wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might be missing something here, but if that kind of stuff really is on Reddit then I would want them to be made to take responsibility for having it on their site and suffer the consequences if it is not removed and reported to the authorities.

i don't think reddit is hosting underage porn, and im sure there is some subreddit somewhere that has questionable content (the same as there is copyrighted material somewhere deep on youtube) but i don't think that it is so widespread.

...just go ahead and scroll through r/gonewild, and you know what the OP meant.

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Post by soupson »

tmalsburg2 wrote: post #74
pyrophane wrote: post #47

I don't have any sympathy for Pornhub here. Their entire business is built on stolen content uploaded by anonymous users, and it wasn't until they hollowed out the rest of the industry through theft that they started looking beyond it. I would go so far as to say that the reason Pornhub and other tube sites haven't taken problems like child porn and revenge porn seriously is because doing so would undermine the found…

> Their entire business is built on stolen content uploaded by anonymous users, Not disagreeing with you, but, to be fair, that was exactly Youtube's recipe for success, and still is to some extent. I never understood how Youtube could get away with that.

Section 230 + lack of resources by the owners to sue, right?

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Post by [deleted] »

Anon1096 wrote: post #6

I'm surprised at how much impact the NYT's expose (I would personally consider it more of a hit piece) has had. I naively assumed that PornHub, as a top-10 site on the web would be immune to such a piece, but I guess I was wrong. How many of the members of the NYT and the Visa and Mastercard boards who created on this outcome watched the videos that are now down? Probably a majority of them, but that wasn't enough to…

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Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Post by zxcvbn4038 »

Now that Visa/MasterCard have dropped them, how are they going to get paid? Are they going to have to implement ACH and equivalent around the world? Just switch to a different payment processors? Move to billing to an intl visa subsidiary? Appeal to Visa/MasterCard now that they have policies in place? Or does advertising cover their costs and charging users was just an add-on?

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Post by dsego »

tmalsburg2 wrote: post #74
pyrophane wrote: post #47

I don't have any sympathy for Pornhub here. Their entire business is built on stolen content uploaded by anonymous users, and it wasn't until they hollowed out the rest of the industry through theft that they started looking beyond it. I would go so far as to say that the reason Pornhub and other tube sites haven't taken problems like child porn and revenge porn seriously is because doing so would undermine the found…

> Their entire business is built on stolen content uploaded by anonymous users, Not disagreeing with you, but, to be fair, that was exactly Youtube's recipe for success, and still is to some extent. I never understood how Youtube could get away with that.

Content ID and agreements with major publishers?

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Post by mrlala »

pyrophane wrote: post #47

I don't have any sympathy for Pornhub here. Their entire business is built on stolen content uploaded by anonymous users, and it wasn't until they hollowed out the rest of the industry through theft that they started looking beyond it. I would go so far as to say that the reason Pornhub and other tube sites haven't taken problems like child porn and revenge porn seriously is because doing so would undermine the found…

>Their entire business is built on stolen content uploaded by anonymous users

I don't know, whenever the topic of Kim Dotcom/Megaupload comes up people on hackernews act like he has done nothing wrong and is a victim. Now the community is against a business being built on uploading stolen content by anonymous users?

Ok.

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Post by Larrikin »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #62
headmelted wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might be missing something here, but if that kind of stuff really is on Reddit then I would want them to be made to take responsibility for having it on their site and suffer the consequences if it is not removed and reported to the authorities.

Genuine question: how do you scale content moderation to millions of posts without hiring millions of workers at astronomical cost (who can make mistakes, like we’ve seen with DMCA take down notices, YouTube censorship when not justified, AppStore censorship,even GitHub made these mistakes, etc... some of these mistakes ruin peoples’ livelihoods). Is there a “right way” to do this that protects everyone?

This question presumes that they have some inalienable right to scale despite not having solved this problem

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Post by CapricornNoble »

concordDance wrote: post #24
djsumdog wrote: post #20

Was Hunter Biden's pornhub account still up? If not, when was it taken down? I'm sure there more to this than just his account, but I don't doubt that played some role in this.

What are you talking about? Got any links?

https://en-volve.com/2020/10/29/breaking-hunters-laptop-reve...

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Post by CoolGuySteve »

pyrophane wrote: post #47

I don't have any sympathy for Pornhub here. Their entire business is built on stolen content uploaded by anonymous users, and it wasn't until they hollowed out the rest of the industry through theft that they started looking beyond it. I would go so far as to say that the reason Pornhub and other tube sites haven't taken problems like child porn and revenge porn seriously is because doing so would undermine the found…

With all this talk about various corporations policing copyright, censoring political content, and whatnot, I think it's only a matter of time until someone makes an anonymous blockchain content aggregator that's impossible to censor.

Then when it becomes the modern equivalent of Usenet/IRC/Napster/PirateBay, people will just shrug and say "don't blame the protocol".

The demand exists and the technology exists, but nobody has put them together yet.

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