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Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by JacobAldridge »

A key saying I provide all my clients with in regards to corporate culture and behaviours: a fish rots from the head.

Usually this means things like 'if the boss is ten minutes late to every meeting, staff will assume it's acceptable for everyone to be ten minutes late to a meeting'.

Given Zuckerbeg's reputation for sneaky behaviour and this example of his PR team, I now have an excellent example to share in the future: 'If the boss uses sneaky, underhanded and/or arrogant methods to launch 'his' business, staff will assume it's acceptable for them to use sneaky underhanded and/or arrogant methods to promote it'.

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by barrkel »

maxklein wrote: post #29

Who cares? Facebook is a generic company. Google is a generic company. If they spy on each, smash each other, etc, it changes nothing. Neither for you nor for your startup or anything. Personifying these companies and then writing gossip stories about them is turning what should be real business into some kind of pseudo-fashion magazine. Just as little as I care for Snookie kissing JWoww, do I care about Facebook spy…

Goodwill and brand have value, and public opinion affects laws that get written. The very fact that Facebook was doing this means perception matters. It's not like FB and Google are making money from artificial drama, so I think your analogy is specious.

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by blub »

JacobAldridge wrote: post #31

A key saying I provide all my clients with in regards to corporate culture and behaviours: a fish rots from the head. Usually this means things like 'if the boss is ten minutes late to every meeting, staff will assume it's acceptable for everyone to be ten minutes late to a meeting'. Given Zuckerbeg's reputation for sneaky behaviour and this example of his PR team, I now have an excellent example to share in the futu…

True. It's worth mentioning that this fish-rots-from-the-head theory also applies to Google's top management and their views over privacy.

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blub wrote: post #33
JacobAldridge wrote: post #31

A key saying I provide all my clients with in regards to corporate culture and behaviours: a fish rots from the head. Usually this means things like 'if the boss is ten minutes late to every meeting, staff will assume it's acceptable for everyone to be ten minutes late to a meeting'. Given Zuckerbeg's reputation for sneaky behaviour and this example of his PR team, I now have an excellent example to share in the futu…

True. It's worth mentioning that this fish-rots-from-the-head theory also applies to Google's top management and their views over privacy.

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Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by RexRollman »

bluedanieru wrote: post #15
bad_user wrote: post #13

Wow, just wow! I wonder how employees feel about it - is it just business as usual? For that matter, I wonder how would-be investors feel about it. Google defeated competition from Microsoft and Yahoo with innovation and hard work, not with slimy tactics. They dazzled the world by being open, provocative, fast and effective, forward-thinking, pushing web apps to their limits, giving customers what they wanted. Is thi…

Facebook is the next, I don't know, Oracle probably. Google is the next Google.

It's funny you say that, because if there are two tech companies I despise, it is Oracle and Facebook.

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by tnorthcutt »

yanw wrote: post #2

They are too young of a company to be pulling this sort of seedy stuff. Also ‘privacy’?! I hope the irony isn’t lost on anyone. It wasn't very well thought-out, as when a net privacy panic starts spreading like wildfire through the media the consequences in political grandstanding and potential legislative action would hurt them as well. So they come out of this looking like data-locking propaganda spreading assholes…

They are too young of a company to be pulling this sort of seedy stuff.

Is there a time in a company's existence when it's "ok" to do something like this?

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by bhavin »

yanw wrote: post #2

They are too young of a company to be pulling this sort of seedy stuff. Also ‘privacy’?! I hope the irony isn’t lost on anyone. It wasn't very well thought-out, as when a net privacy panic starts spreading like wildfire through the media the consequences in political grandstanding and potential legislative action would hurt them as well. So they come out of this looking like data-locking propaganda spreading assholes…

They are too young of a company to be pulling this sort of seedy stuff.

I do not think this kind of seedy behavior is appropriate for company of any age, young or old. If anything, a company should get more responsible as it gets older.

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by elehack »

brown9-2 wrote: post #30
count wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do get a say - you got a say that Facebook could have your data. At least in the US, that makes it their data - we have no eTRUST or other Privacy law/data ownership laws in place to say otherwise.

This doesn't seem like it would be a very popular point of view with the people giving data to Facebook (or whom want to share it with Google or other companies).

Sadly, most of those people don't realize this is what is happening, or what the implications of such control and ownership are.

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by kwis »

JacobAldridge wrote: post #31

A key saying I provide all my clients with in regards to corporate culture and behaviours: a fish rots from the head. Usually this means things like 'if the boss is ten minutes late to every meeting, staff will assume it's acceptable for everyone to be ten minutes late to a meeting'. Given Zuckerbeg's reputation for sneaky behaviour and this example of his PR team, I now have an excellent example to share in the futu…

This was my first thought as well. Whether they like it or not, founders are always leading by example.

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