Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google • Hacker News Board

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by ignifero » Thu, May 12, 2011, 11:09 AM UTC

yanw wrote: post #2

They are too young of a company to be pulling this sort of seedy stuff. Also ‘privacy’?! I hope the irony isn’t lost on anyone. It wasn't very well thought-out, as when a net privacy panic starts spreading like wildfire through the media the consequences in political grandstanding and potential legislative action would hurt them as well. So they come out of this looking like data-locking propaganda spreading assholes…

I wonder if this cold war is the reason facebook banned adsense from 3rd party apps http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2291336

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by guelo » Thu, May 12, 2011, 11:20 AM UTC

PR types are always dancing on the shadiness line. Sometimes I get suspicious about the comments on HN when negative stories about certain companies come out.

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by rakkhi » Thu, May 12, 2011, 11:32 AM UTC

Does this mean that they are actually worried about whatever Google do/doing on social? Could be a big morale boost to the Google team

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by MatthewPhillips » Thu, May 12, 2011, 11:33 AM UTC

plinkplonk wrote: post #8

I wonder what the ex googlers who moved to FaceBook think of such slimy tactics. Might be interesting to hear the perspective of someone who moved from a company that (at least) professes an adherence to "Don't be evil" to a company that apparently has no problems with jumping into the slime. If I worked for Facebook, I'd be ashamed of my employer today (and would probably protest and then get fired!). And, as someon…

The ethos of a company derive from that of the founder, this event should be a surprise to no one.

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by kenmck » Thu, May 12, 2011, 11:51 AM UTC

#faceplant

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by andrewcooke » Thu, May 12, 2011, 11:51 AM UTC

braindead_in wrote: post #17

How is the PR firm linked to Facebook?

Facebook employed them. Both sides have "confessed". See the Daily Beast article - http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-05-12/fa... [and they give credit to USA Today - http://www.usatoday.com/money/media/2011-05-06-google_n.htm]

FB complaining about privacy abuses just broke my irony meter.

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by brown9-2 » Thu, May 12, 2011, 11:55 AM UTC

From the Daily Beast article:

First, because it believes Google is doing some things in social networking that raise privacy concerns; second, and perhaps more important, because Facebook resents Google’s attempts to use Facebook data in its own social-networking service.

So, just to get this straight: Facebook resents that Google use's "Facebook data" in Social Circles, when I as the user have to explicitly allow Google to import my Facebook connections? Shouldn't the user get a say in how their data is used and who uses it?

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by count » Thu, May 12, 2011, 11:57 AM UTC

brown9-2 wrote: post #27

From the Daily Beast article: First, because it believes Google is doing some things in social networking that raise privacy concerns; second, and perhaps more important, because Facebook resents Google’s attempts to use Facebook data in its own social-networking service. So, just to get this straight: Facebook resents that Google use's "Facebook data" in Social Circles, when I as the user have to explicitly allow Go…

You do get a say - you got a say that Facebook could have your data. At least in the US, that makes it their data - we have no eTRUST or other Privacy law/data ownership laws in place to say otherwise.

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by maxklein » Thu, May 12, 2011, 11:57 AM UTC

Who cares? Facebook is a generic company. Google is a generic company. If they spy on each, smash each other, etc, it changes nothing. Neither for you nor for your startup or anything.

Personifying these companies and then writing gossip stories about them is turning what should be real business into some kind of pseudo-fashion magazine.

Just as little as I care for Snookie kissing JWoww, do I care about Facebook spying on google. The impact of this is minimally negligible in the world of real business, and something like this is just pointless gossip.

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by brown9-2 » Thu, May 12, 2011, 12:00 PM UTC

count wrote: post #28

brown9-2 wrote: post #27

From the Daily Beast article: First, because it believes Google is doing some things in social networking that raise privacy concerns; second, and perhaps more important, because Facebook resents Google’s attempts to use Facebook data in its own social-networking service. So, just to get this straight: Facebook resents that Google use's "Facebook data" in Social Circles, when I as the user have to explicitly allow Go…

You do get a say - you got a say that Facebook could have your data. At least in the US, that makes it their data - we have no eTRUST or other Privacy law/data ownership laws in place to say otherwise.

This doesn't seem like it would be a very popular point of view with the people giving data to Facebook (or whom want to share it with Google or other companies).