Twitch suspends DragonForce guitarist Herman Li for playing his own music

Post by jowsie » Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 4:12 PM UTC

helsinkiandrew wrote: post #49

libertine wrote: post #31

When will platforms start to be charged for their mistakes? Pretty sure if they had to make financial compensations for their mistakes, they would start using humans more often to support this crap automated system. You would start to see more people being able to reach human support, getting human replies, etc. Would be pretty easy - for each day without reply, fine X. For X day of suspension, fine Y. And so on. If…

> When will platforms start to be charged for their mistakes? When they start to charge their customers. I know I’ll get downvoted first this, but this kind of thing happens because each user in general is earning them cents and the the only way to enforce their policies is to do it on mass with automation and review by a human if the person complains (and then often rushed and not very well). Although some large acc…

Post by wolco2 » Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 4:15 PM UTC

wbl wrote: post #37

clircle wrote: post #2

Well, did he just write the songs or does he own the copyright? The former isn't enough to make this a wrongful suspension.

Music copyright is complicated and there are certain rights that attach to each performance vs. the music. If I sit down and play Bach that recording cannot be copied without my permission but you can sit down and record your own performance of Bach.

Post by wolco2 » Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 4:18 PM UTC

wbl wrote: post #40

dafoex wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a fair point, though. Just because you're the producer doesn't mean you're the owner. Book authors often go to publishing houses to get their book published, in which case the author has little control over their work. Also, commissioned works are usually copyright to the commissioner or other employer, that's why Doctor Who is copyright to the BBC, not Steven Moffat.

SFWA standard terms are the author grants US publishing rights, not the entire copyright. https://www.sfwa.org/2009/07/05/model-contract-hardcover/ Authors should never sign anything worse then that.

Post by grawprog » Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 4:25 PM UTC

podiki wrote: post #41

All these comments and not one of how awesome Herman Li is? Even if you are not at all into the type of music he plays (though, come on, shredding and video game sounds!) I think there's quite a virtuosity to be appreciated. Plus he tries (not sure how that fits with record companies) to let people use his music as they want.

Post by corobo » Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 4:26 PM UTC

masklinn wrote: post #48

corobo wrote: post #13

Just to point it out this was back in Oct at the height of the DMCA stuff* I believe. Not to say it makes it any better but I can see how they might have been trigger happy at the time. I opened this article "Again?!" * Ooh I've ended up on the top. For context to people not in and around Twitch the RIAA woke up and started handing out DMCAs like it was going out of fashion. Twitch naturally had to respond to the DMC…

> Ooh I've ended up on the top. For context to people not in and around Twitch the RIAA woke up and started handing out DMCAs like it was going out of fashion. Twitch naturally had to respond to the DMCAs to keep fair harbour and the masses misdirected their anger at Twitch for a while. I don't think they've stopped either, CDPR had to issue a warning to streamers to keep the music muted, because there are bits of li…