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Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t

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The definition of money is more or less “the capacity of access to goods”. What is the problem here?

A lack of empathy.

Any time this is your answer to anything, just say "my personal intuition is magically infallible."

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It is not being left to die because you can’t afford treatment. It is bad enough that we don’t need to exaggerate.

> It is not being left to die because you can’t afford treatment. It is bad enough that we don’t need to exaggerate. If you don't have the money to pay, hospitals in the US are only required by law to stabilize you . So, for instance, if you can't afford cancer treatment, you'll likely die of untreated cancer.

In South Carolina, where I work for a hospital, you automatically qualify for Medicaid when you’re diagnosed with cancer.

This way people don’t die from untreated cancer.

Getting diagnosed early when uninsured is where we fail as a society. Our politicians cover up this failure by giving them Medicaid so we spend $500k treating advanced disease and they still die, rather than universal coverage.

Re: Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is not being left to die because you can’t afford treatment. It is bad enough that we don’t need to exaggerate. If you don't have the money to pay, hospitals in the US are only required by law to stabilize you . So, for instance, if you can't afford cancer treatment, you'll likely die of untreated cancer.

In South Carolina, where I work for a hospital, you automatically qualify for Medicaid when you’re diagnosed with cancer. This way people don’t die from untreated cancer. Getting diagnosed early when uninsured is where we fail as a society. Our politicians cover up this failure by giving them Medicaid so we spend $500k treating advanced disease and they still die, rather than universal coverage.

Yup, the cost of delayed care is quite often lives.

Re: Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t

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Boris Johnson, PM of the UK, got his COVID care from the National Health Service, and while I imagine he got some VIP treatment, the delta between rich and poor in the US is the same as life and death. It's not an issue of an extra comfy pillow and a room with a view, it's being left to die because you can't afford treatment. Other countries don't do that.

> it's being left to die because you can't afford treatment What? Emergency rooms can't refuse people in the US.

People who can’t afford the cost or just don’t want to pay the exorbitant cost will avoid going, even if it means their lives.

Having chest pain? What if it’s just indigestion, you don’t want to go to the ER and have a $5000 bill. Oops, it was a heart attack and you’re dead. This is an actual discussion I had with one of my parents. Luckily, in that case it wasn’t a heart attack, but this is the patient-hostile system we’re working with.

The thing I always say is that when you allow health organizations and insurance companies to be for-profit, profit is going to be prioritized over health.

Re: Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t

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Very curious how monoclonal antibodies seem to be usable for a very wide range of applications. I have been taking monoclonal antibodies every 2 weeks for more than a year now with Dupixent for atopic dermatitis. In my 30+ years on this earth only steroid creams ever worked to treat my eczema, that is until this monoclonal antibody treatment came along and for all intents and purposes completely cured me. To know tha…

Antibodies are specific for antigens. The one for your dermatitis will target a different protein than the one for COVID.

Re: Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t

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It's a shame - there very people who should see the consequences are the same who won't. America has long ceased to be a meritocracy.

Meritocracies require extreme discipline to maintain. Like militaries. Hierarchic and authority driven. In something as casual, permissive, and political as a democratic republic, even with laws, it corrupts itself. Those with power decide what is meritorious, and inevitably lower ladders for their family and friends.

Minorities have never been on a level playing field, so I'd argue it never was nor could have been a meritocracy anyway. It was always corrupt from its founding. That would seem to be a necessary first step.

Re: Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t

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What is the problem here? A frail old geezer gets some medicine that can avert onset of pneumonia. All right, New York Times, I understand you want to be the judge who gets euthanized and who doesn't.

Maybe you don't like he's friends with Trump. If I had a friend who'd pull any strings to save my life, I'd be honored and humbled and prayed for him as long as I breathe.

It's a shame HN gets flooded with hateful journo tripe of the lowest degree.

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