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Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t

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Re: Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t

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He's not an elected official or front-line worker. He's not a resident of the community that the Georgetown hospital serves. He's obese. Why did the staff responsible for triage decide that he gets priority over someone more essential, or someone not obese with a better chance of survival.

From the article:

> A physician with experience administering the new monoclonal antibodies, who didn’t want to use his name because he’s not authorized by his hospital to speak publicly, said giving them to Giuliani “appears to be an inappropriate use outside the guidelines of the E.U.A. for a very scarce resource.” Very scarce indeed: According to the Department of Health and Human Services, as of Wednesday the entire country had about 77,000 total doses of the Regeneron cocktail and almost 260,000 doses of Eli Lilly’s monoclonal antibody treatment. That’s less than you’d need to treat everyone who’d tested positive in just the previous two days.

Re: Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t

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He's not an elected official or front-line worker. He's not a resident of the community that the Georgetown hospital serves. He's obese. Why did the staff responsible for triage decide that he gets priority over someone more essential, or someone not obese with a better chance of survival. From the article: > A physician with experience administering the new monoclonal antibodies, who didn’t want to use his name beca…

This is answered quite clearly in the article - because he's well connected. Largely that means people with money, but influence doesn't hurt either. He cut the line as a VIP.

Is that ethically wrong? Probably. Is it new? Not even remotely.

Re: Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t

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He's not an elected official or front-line worker. He's not a resident of the community that the Georgetown hospital serves. He's obese. Why did the staff responsible for triage decide that he gets priority over someone more essential, or someone not obese with a better chance of survival. From the article: > A physician with experience administering the new monoclonal antibodies, who didn’t want to use his name beca…

He is the President of the United States' friend and attorney, and that, like it or not, probably gets the job done.

Re: Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t

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He's not an elected official or front-line worker. He's not a resident of the community that the Georgetown hospital serves. He's obese. Why did the staff responsible for triage decide that he gets priority over someone more essential, or someone not obese with a better chance of survival. From the article: > A physician with experience administering the new monoclonal antibodies, who didn’t want to use his name beca…

That's just the name of the game when you have someone high up in power looking out for you.

I wonder how the pressure from above manifested itself in that triage room. Probably something along the lines of "take extra good care of this person... or else"

Re: Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t

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It is better to be rich than poor. In other news, the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.

Boris Johnson, PM of the UK, got his COVID care from the National Health Service, and while I imagine he got some VIP treatment, the delta between rich and poor in the US is the same as life and death. It's not an issue of an extra comfy pillow and a room with a view, it's being left to die because you can't afford treatment. Other countries don't do that.

Re: Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t

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post #7

It is better to be rich than poor. In other news, the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.

Boris Johnson, PM of the UK, got his COVID care from the National Health Service, and while I imagine he got some VIP treatment, the delta between rich and poor in the US is the same as life and death. It's not an issue of an extra comfy pillow and a room with a view, it's being left to die because you can't afford treatment. Other countries don't do that.

It is not being left to die because you can’t afford treatment. It is bad enough that we don’t need to exaggerate.

Re: Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Boris Johnson, PM of the UK, got his COVID care from the National Health Service, and while I imagine he got some VIP treatment, the delta between rich and poor in the US is the same as life and death. It's not an issue of an extra comfy pillow and a room with a view, it's being left to die because you can't afford treatment. Other countries don't do that.

It is not being left to die because you can’t afford treatment. It is bad enough that we don’t need to exaggerate.

There are many reports of people self-rationing insulin and dying as a result. That's as close to "left to die because you can't afford treatment" as it's possible to get without murder charges.
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