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It's Time to Drop the "F" Bomb - or "Lies, Damn Lies, and NoSQL."

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Re: It's Time to Drop the "F" Bomb - or "Lies, Damn Lies, and NoSQL."

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Post by batasrki »

ethangunderson wrote: post #9
tptacek wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a backstory to Mongo vs. Riak? I've noticed that there's definitely a "Mongo user" and a "Riak user" and they tend not to agree about stuff.

Basho has always had an issue with the way Mogno was architected and marketed, and they have no issue with letting people know. (several blog posts, killdashnine parties) I actually like both Mongo and Riak. I think they both solve a different problem set, and can actually complement each other in a polyglot persistence setup. It's a shame that there has to be so much negativity between them, because at the end of th…

To be honest, Mongo's execs have done pretty much the same thing. As I said in another comment, the Changelog episode on Mongo was very illuminating with regards to the marketing tactics of 10gen.

I do like both, as well.

Re: It's Time to Drop the "F" Bomb - or "Lies, Damn Lies, and NoSQL."

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Post by br1 »

VladRussian wrote: post #4

Just a piece of self-glorification. I brushed my teeth, it is hard - all 32 teeths, complicated distributed problem, can't do them all at once consistently, yet i still was able to do it.

It's hard for the rest of the world but incremental for them... Let's see how they turn ego into code.

Re: It's Time to Drop the "F" Bomb - or "Lies, Damn Lies, and NoSQL."

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Post by ethangunderson »

batasrki wrote: post #11
ethangunderson wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basho has always had an issue with the way Mogno was architected and marketed, and they have no issue with letting people know. (several blog posts, killdashnine parties) I actually like both Mongo and Riak. I think they both solve a different problem set, and can actually complement each other in a polyglot persistence setup. It's a shame that there has to be so much negativity between them, because at the end of th…

To be honest, Mongo's execs have done pretty much the same thing. As I said in another comment, the Changelog episode on Mongo was very illuminating with regards to the marketing tactics of 10gen. I do like both, as well.

If they're doing the same thing, that's just as shitty. But I've been meaning to listen to that episode of the Changelog for awhile now, so thanks for the reminder!

Re: It's Time to Drop the "F" Bomb - or "Lies, Damn Lies, and NoSQL."

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Post by mmalone »

Credit where credit's due, the 10gen and MongoDB guys have done a great job convincing developers to adopt their product despite the existence of technically superior alternatives. I guess that's what happens when a bunch of ex-DoubleClick execs start a database company.

Re: It's Time to Drop the "F" Bomb - or "Lies, Damn Lies, and NoSQL."

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Post by aguynamedben »

mmalone wrote: post #15

Credit where credit's due, the 10gen and MongoDB guys have done a great job convincing developers to adopt their product despite the existence of technically superior alternatives. I guess that's what happens when a bunch of ex-DoubleClick execs start a database company.

just sayin'...

Re: It's Time to Drop the "F" Bomb - or "Lies, Damn Lies, and NoSQL."

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Post by mattyb »

batasrki wrote: post #11
ethangunderson wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basho has always had an issue with the way Mogno was architected and marketed, and they have no issue with letting people know. (several blog posts, killdashnine parties) I actually like both Mongo and Riak. I think they both solve a different problem set, and can actually complement each other in a polyglot persistence setup. It's a shame that there has to be so much negativity between them, because at the end of th…

To be honest, Mongo's execs have done pretty much the same thing. As I said in another comment, the Changelog episode on Mongo was very illuminating with regards to the marketing tactics of 10gen. I do like both, as well.

Is this the episode?

http://thechangelog.com/post/3742814720/episode-0-5-1-mongod...

Re: It's Time to Drop the "F" Bomb - or "Lies, Damn Lies, and NoSQL."

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Post by edoloughlin »

VladRussian wrote: post #4

Just a piece of self-glorification. I brushed my teeth, it is hard - all 32 teeths, complicated distributed problem, can't do them all at once consistently, yet i still was able to do it.

It reads like it was written by a marketing person.

Re: It's Time to Drop the "F" Bomb - or "Lies, Damn Lies, and NoSQL."

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Post by jhugg »

edoloughlin wrote: post #19
VladRussian wrote: post #4

Just a piece of self-glorification. I brushed my teeth, it is hard - all 32 teeths, complicated distributed problem, can't do them all at once consistently, yet i still was able to do it.

It reads like it was written by a marketing person.

I disagree. It reads like an engineer who is frustrated that his/her tech is getting out-businessed (perhaps in a slimy way). Engineers generally want to live in a world where the best tech wins, but in the end, we go home to our betamax players and wonder why we can't rent any good movies for them.
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