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It's Time to Drop the "F" Bomb - or "Lies, Damn Lies, and NoSQL."

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Re: It's Time to Drop the "F" Bomb - or "Lies, Damn Lies, and NoSQL."

#6

Was this targeted at anyone in particular, or is it a general rant (deserved or not) at the state at the world?

It was a thinly veiled bash on Mongo.

Is there a backstory to Mongo vs. Riak? I've noticed that there's definitely a "Mongo user" and a "Riak user" and they tend not to agree about stuff.

Re: It's Time to Drop the "F" Bomb - or "Lies, Damn Lies, and NoSQL."

#7

Was this targeted at anyone in particular, or is it a general rant (deserved or not) at the state at the world?

It was a thinly veiled bash on Mongo.

I hate subliminal attacks like these ... if you have a problem with someone, come out and say it, don't let me have to figure out what or who you're getting at.

And with regards to Mongo ... they've since added a feature that allows 'safe' writes to your database (confirms the data is written before returning a response) ... so what's the rant about?

Re: It's Time to Drop the "F" Bomb - or "Lies, Damn Lies, and NoSQL."

#8

Was this targeted at anyone in particular, or is it a general rant (deserved or not) at the state at the world?

It was a thinly veiled bash on Mongo.

Not just Mongo though, there are a lot of NoSQL companies out there right now whose marketing claims the impossible.

Re: It's Time to Drop the "F" Bomb - or "Lies, Damn Lies, and NoSQL."

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was a thinly veiled bash on Mongo.

Is there a backstory to Mongo vs. Riak? I've noticed that there's definitely a "Mongo user" and a "Riak user" and they tend not to agree about stuff.

Basho has always had an issue with the way Mogno was architected and marketed, and they have no issue with letting people know. (several blog posts, killdashnine parties)

I actually like both Mongo and Riak. I think they both solve a different problem set, and can actually complement each other in a polyglot persistence setup. It's a shame that there has to be so much negativity between them, because at the end of the day, this type of whiny blog post doesn't really help anyone.

Re: It's Time to Drop the "F" Bomb - or "Lies, Damn Lies, and NoSQL."

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was a thinly veiled bash on Mongo.

I hate subliminal attacks like these ... if you have a problem with someone, come out and say it, don't let me have to figure out what or who you're getting at. And with regards to Mongo ... they've since added a feature that allows 'safe' writes to your database (confirms the data is written before returning a response) ... so what's the rant about?

The 'safe' feature isn't on by default, yet. Also, the benchmarks 10gen publishes are based on default setup, so basically, Mongo writes to RAM, therefore it's fast.

I love Mongo and am using it in a few apps, but their marketing does blow, I admit.

Also, Eliot Horowitz came out and bashed on Riak's eventual consistency promise by basically misleading devs into thinking that writing to MongoDB will always result in 'full consistency'. Listen to the ChangeLog episode on Mongo to hear that.

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