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Post by ptx »

pasabagi wrote: post #494
FooBarWidget wrote: post #461

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China taking over TSMC control. How, exactly? China isn't looking to invade Taiwan any time soon, unless America puts bases in Taiwan first. And an invasion of Taiwan would immediately result in the destruction of TSMC, thus invasion is not a viable strategy to gain TSMC.

Seems to me like a scenario where a pro-china party moves Taiwan closer to China, until it is essentially re-integrated, is basically inevitable if China continues to grow at its current pace.

The pro-China party lost resoundingly in the last election. The Taiwanese are not keen on being reintegrated.

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Post by corty »

dieortin wrote: post #454
LunaSea wrote: post #149

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For Airbus I would agree but ESA isn't on the same level as NASA and CERN is competitive but only in a field where there is no real reason to be competitive (no money is made).

If the only reason to do anything is money, sure. I think most people here in HN know how valuable scientific research is, and the kind of advancements that come from it. The World Wide Web came from CERN.

The World Wide Web coming from CERN is not getting stuff done. It is getting lost in side-projects and doing the non-obvious, non-cheapest, non-fastest thing because it is interesting and there is a tiny chance it might be worth it in the long run. Very much not plain getting-stuff-done.

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Post by mrDmrTmrJ »

pompeirules wrote: post #485
m000 wrote: post #442

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Do you have any references of English actually being phased-out in EU? The Politico article was written just a few days after the Brexit referendum, and 4 years later I can only take it for empty sabre-rattling.

> Do you have any references of English actually being phased-out in EU? It's not clear yet if it will be used in official documents after Brexit agreements will be signed, but UK was the only country who chose English as an official language. There's an hard requirement in EU to translate every official document in every language spoken in the EU, if English is not an official language, that requirement will cease t…

As an American, I was surprised by the amount of English education I encountered in European.

Though the places I visited: Sweden, Rome, Greece, Netherlands, France, Spain, Vienna, Ukraine, Berlin all have above average levels.

Do you see the Brexit changing this?

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language_in_Europe

Re: EU countries team up for semiconductor push

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Post by nine_k »

s_dev wrote: post #449
nixass wrote: post #427

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While Irish/Gaelic language is a thing it's mostly ceremonial and people on the street know it poorly, with no knowledge to even superficial conversation. Irish language has no use in Ireland. Even tho it is "official", it's useless

I don't agree it's "useless" but I can see your point. We don't learn it for commerce or for historical/cultural insight. We learn it to know who were are. Imagine telling a bunch of Jews that Hebrew was a load of nonsense and they're better off learning German, French or Spanish. I would agree though that the level of spoken Irish amongst the general population of Ireland is poor. For them it's not about more opport…

Hebrew has a number of sacred books written in it. This us why it was preserved through centuries by faithful Jews, who read these books basically daily. It was and is a strong part of ethnic and religious identity.

A similar situation is with Quran and classical Arabic, even though it's not an everyday spoken language in (most of) Arabic world.

AFAICT Irish does not enjoy a similar status. If you want to hear a more or less alive Gaelic language in everyday use, visit rural Wales.

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Post by newdude116 »

tristor wrote: post #457
nixass wrote: post #435

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Worth noting that many Americans I know in Europe, have no plans to ever come back, they don't see USA as an option anymore once experienced life here. Source: work for FAANG, I see many one way relocations US>EU, not so much other way around. Furthermore: 1. yeah, triple the money, quadruple the life costs, and no social security safety net, or at least poor one. 2. what? 3. FREEDOM - very US centric view on the "fr…

I don't think the number of Europeans coming to the US or the number of Americans going to Europe is massively high in either direction, so we're talking about a pretty specific subset of people for whom this makes sense, mostly for economic reasons. 1. Life costs are nowhere near quadruple, in fact they are roughly equal to lower in the US. I have no idea where you think this costs more, but I feel like this is a po…

"1. Life costs are nowhere near quadruple, in fact they are roughly equal to lower in the US."

That is unlikely. Metropolitan areas in the US are expensive as f. But assuming they are the same. Health care and education of your children will kill you financially.

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Post by sharpneli »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #287
burntoutfire wrote: post #251

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Also: - labor laws (very hard to fire people in many European countries) - lots of disjointed small-to-medium markets (with different laws and languages) make expansion on continental scale much harder than in the US

>- labor laws (very hard to fire people in many European countries) That's just not true now and hasn't been the case anymore since like the 2009 financial crisis. In most of Europe it's trivial to fire an underperforming non-unionized employee as the countries have adapted more business friendly laws to remain competitive after the financial crisis. Sure, there may still be some grey beards somewhere with old bullet…

Non-competes are illegal in California. That’s likely a big reason why it is so successful. As an example neither Intel not AMD would exist if non-competes would be allowed there. Iirc Nvidia too.

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Post by mhh__ »

Daho0n wrote: post #428
guai888 wrote: post #360

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China CCP is a snake. Get in bed with them and they will bite you one day. It is just their nature. Apple will learn one day.

No more so that any other big country. At least they don't bomb thousands of people a month.

China==USA is an incredibly HN bad take

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Post by ntsplnkv2 »

madeofpalk wrote: post #144
ntsplnkv2 wrote: post #49

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Americans who are able to get jobs in the tech industry do not have to worry about expensive healthcare, at all. The US is very much a tale of two countries - but people here making a lot of money have a great quality of life.

Maybe you just answered the question why people wouldn't want to move to such a country. From the outside, America does not portray itself to be a particularly stable or desirable place to live.

Except many people do come to the US. Of course not everyone wants to go to the US.

> From the outside, America does not portray itself to be a particularly stable or desirable place to live.

In your opinion.

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Post by rakhodorkovsky »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #491
joelbluminator wrote: post #487

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> If a company really wants you gone, they'll make it happen one way or another. Well they usually do it by compensating the employee quite heavily. Psychologically torturing an employee isn't that good for team morale, even if the employee was underperforming. I also don't think it's as culturally prevalent as you imply.

>Well they usually do it by compensating the employee quite heavily. Where outside of the US/UK does that happen? Never heard in Europe that you get paid more so you leave when they can boot you out for free and I talked to lawyers about this. The reasoning behind the generous safety nets in Europe is also to make it easier for employee-employer terminations in case it doesn't work out. The laws here are that employe…

In Germany it's common for larger, well performing companies to retire older, less productive employees by way of 'Abfindungsprogramm' - programs that offer these employees generous monetary compensation (up to ~2-5 annual salary) in exchange for them retiring early. I know of four people who took such an offer.

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Post by sangnoir »

rossdavidh wrote: post #254

So, as someone who used to be an engineer in semiconductor manufacturing facilities, this reminds me a lot of Sematech. That was a joint venture between American companies in the 90's, when there was a concern that we were falling behind Japan. I'm sure there will be people who try to claim otherwise, but my view from inside AMD (at that time still doing its own manufacturing) was that nothing much ever came out of S…

Europe already has successful semiconductor companies, including: Philips, Nordic Semiconductor, NXP, and the crown-jewel the entire world depends on: ASML.

Aside: how did the Netherlands become such a semiconductor powerhouse?

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