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Cloudflare’s privacy-first Web Analytics is now available for everyone

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Re: Cloudflare’s privacy-first Web Analytics is now available for everyone

#92
Still only lets you look at week long slices, not a competitor to GA.

Also browser/device/viewing environment info is a key piece of GA and not something anybody has replicated as well. (the ability to intuitively drill down and compare is second to none with GA. you have to create segments in omo witch is a like 10 click long process with 3 processing pauses vs clicking on `windows` to drill down by family to os version or clicking on a referrer to see the pages they refer traffic to by visit)

Re: Cloudflare’s privacy-first Web Analytics is now available for everyone

#93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(PM for Cloudflare Analytics here) Thanks! If you do end up "orange clouding" and proxying your site through Cloudflare, we can show you lots of stats about your website, even from clients that don't support JS :)

My website, like many, uses Cloudflare's CDN. I occasionally spend time going through the analytics section inside the dashboard. I suppose those are data points gathered by your edge servers (?). If true - how is that different from what is launched today?

what launched today allows you to use it even if you don't proxy your traffic, hell even if you don't have your nameserver pointed to cloudflare at all.

Re: Cloudflare’s privacy-first Web Analytics is now available for everyone

#94

I only get values in buckets of 100. Really inaccurate. Is it thr case with others?

It scales the sampling rate at data collection time based on your active view counts and at crunch time based on the time range you are looking at.

Re: Cloudflare’s privacy-first Web Analytics is now available for everyone

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As much as I applaud every alternative to Google services, I would think about these kind of analytics twice when running any kind of developer-centric service. Chance is that your target audience is running an adblocker / DNS blocker of some sort and that this will heavily skew the analytics results: The absolute numbers will be a lot lower and you will only capture folks not savvy enough for adblockers. I removed a…

How many people using adblockers block analytics rather than just ads?

The default block lists on many adblockers will also block common analytics platforms.

Re: Cloudflare’s privacy-first Web Analytics is now available for everyone

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As much as I applaud every alternative to Google services, I would think about these kind of analytics twice when running any kind of developer-centric service. Chance is that your target audience is running an adblocker / DNS blocker of some sort and that this will heavily skew the analytics results: The absolute numbers will be a lot lower and you will only capture folks not savvy enough for adblockers. I removed a…

What tools are you using for internal analytics? Streaming logs into something like GoAccess?

Streaming structured JSON access logs from nginx into an ElasticSearch via logagent-js, and then query via kibana. But goaccess is fine if you just want quick aggregate information!

Re: Cloudflare’s privacy-first Web Analytics is now available for everyone

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As much as I applaud every alternative to Google services, I would think about these kind of analytics twice when running any kind of developer-centric service. Chance is that your target audience is running an adblocker / DNS blocker of some sort and that this will heavily skew the analytics results: The absolute numbers will be a lot lower and you will only capture folks not savvy enough for adblockers. I removed a…

Keep in mind that the Internet actually has more bot traffic than human traffic these days. A 50% discrepancy between Google Analytics and access logs could be explained entirely by bot traffic with no ad-blockers involved. It could be ad-blockers, though. And I want to emphasize a point you mentioned briefly: it very much depends on your target audience. An anecdote from several years ago, around with IE was still t…

The vast majority of bot traffic identifies itself though. Search engines from all over that you've never heard of, but they're all showing accurate user agents. I don't attribute every access by far, of course, but for a small website (with peaks to high HN ranks, so it's not unknown or that badly linked) it's manageable to tail -f the access log and see that the traffic you're getting matches what you expect after e.g. posting a link in a chat group. About 99% of traffic in such a case fall within the categories "human-looking user agent visiting this newly created URL that I just shared in the group" and "random bot traffic".

Re: Cloudflare’s privacy-first Web Analytics is now available for everyone

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> The concept of a “visit” is key to this approach. Rather than count unique IP addresses, which would require storing state about what each visitor does, we can simply count the number of page views that come from a different site. This provides a perfectly usable metric that doesn’t compromise on privacy. Say that again please? Is this tracking unique Referrer’s? What if a significant amount of traffic is direct?

Yes, that explanation is a little bit baffling. Referrers are not very reliable (increasingly missing). Maybe visits will just not be very accurate with this.

Citation on "increasingly missing" please. I tried finding out more about that for security reasons (a customer of ours checks the referer for anti-CSRF purposes and it seems to work perfectly fine in any browser so long as you don't do something like https->http posting) but from what I saw it was actually quite reliable and add-ons that block it are rather rare even among privacy what privacy nuts generally recommend to install.

Re: Cloudflare’s privacy-first Web Analytics is now available for everyone

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post #5

> The concept of a “visit” is key to this approach. Rather than count unique IP addresses, which would require storing state about what each visitor does, we can simply count the number of page views that come from a different site. This provides a perfectly usable metric that doesn’t compromise on privacy. Say that again please? Is this tracking unique Referrer’s? What if a significant amount of traffic is direct?

Also I thought browsers didn’t browser a referer for https?

Just hit F12 and check in the network tab what is sent on both XHR and navigation. It does send the referer in general.
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