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Cloudflare’s privacy-first Web Analytics is now available for everyone

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Re: Cloudflare’s privacy-first Web Analytics is now available for everyone

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Post by jplevine »

samat wrote: post #43
Semaphor wrote: post #39

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It’s currently broken. I have a free account and wanted to have a look at it. First it didn’t show at all in my dashboard, after a while it showed up, and I was able to complete onboarding and look at the (empty) results page. When I then refreshed it, I got 404 and now the web analytics button is gone again.

Broken for me, too! 'Analytics are temporarily unavailable', 'Check our status page or retry now.' → All statuses are green. Tired of this broken all green 'status pages'. :(

Sorry to hear that -- can you try again at this page? https://dash.cloudflare.com/?to=/:account/web-analytics

Re: Cloudflare’s privacy-first Web Analytics is now available for everyone

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Post by jplevine »

cluoma wrote: post #36
jgrahamc wrote: post #28

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Yes. It's really free. Sign up is here: https://dash.cloudflare.com/sign-up/web-analytics

Is this not available in the EU? I get forwarded to my dashboard page.

Sorry to hear that - can you try again at this link? https://dash.cloudflare.com/?to=/:account/web-analytics

(We actually did have a replication issue where some folks in the EU had trouble accessing this page)

Re: Cloudflare’s privacy-first Web Analytics is now available for everyone

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Post by OJFord »

biryani_chicken wrote: post #41
f311a wrote: post #4

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I think it's definitely better than Google Analytics. It also does not require cookies, so you don't need to display the GDPR banner.

Until they update the GDPR to prevent cookieless tracking.

It's already about tracking/storing/sharing PII; not about your technical implementation of that.

It's just generally very narrowly interpreted as 'if you use cookies you need to plaster your site in a ridiculous banner and options menu'.

Re: Cloudflare’s privacy-first Web Analytics is now available for everyone

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Post by manigandham »

buildbuildbuild wrote: post #23
jgrahamc wrote: post #15

Also on the subject of not setting cookies. We're killing the __cfduid cookie for all customers: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25357729

This is a great move, thank you. Options to purge analytics data and visitor logs would also be handy to give us more control over our users’ privacy, as well as the ability to transparently see how much of our user data you have collected and for how long it will be retained. And while I have your ear, please consider supporting web servers hosted on non-default ports, and the setting of custom Host headers behind y…

You can technically do that already with Workers: https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/examples

Re: Cloudflare’s privacy-first Web Analytics is now available for everyone

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Post by superkuh »

jgrahamc wrote: post #32
ddevault wrote: post #27

Privacy-first analytics is a contradiction in terms. Do not spy on people. Do not build software that spies on people. It's that easy. This project is despicable, and this company is despicable.

What is despicable about an analytics product that doesn't track people?

Because it does track people. Cloudflare tracks people. Cloudflare excludes people. It is it's very purpose for existing as you well know. These feel good marketing campaigns and services you do are just to centralize more of the internet into cloudflare and that's a bad thing.

Re: Cloudflare’s privacy-first Web Analytics is now available for everyone

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Post by nr2x »

jgrahamc wrote: post #15

Also on the subject of not setting cookies. We're killing the __cfduid cookie for all customers: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25357729

Are you giving up functionality by doing so or accomplishing same goal via an alternate implementation?

Re: Cloudflare’s privacy-first Web Analytics is now available for everyone

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Post by jgrahamc »

superkuh wrote: post #65
jgrahamc wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is despicable about an analytics product that doesn't track people?

Because it does track people. Cloudflare tracks people. Cloudflare excludes people. It is it's very purpose for existing as you well know. These feel good marketing campaigns and services you do are just to centralize more of the internet into cloudflare and that's a bad thing.

It is it's very purpose for existing as you well know.

No, that's not true. And stop claiming you know what I think or believe.

Re: Cloudflare’s privacy-first Web Analytics is now available for everyone

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Post by fastest963 »

cj wrote: post #60
fastest963 wrote: post #38

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If you're interested in how many visitors are using an adblocker you can use Admiral's [1] free analytics on your site. [1] https://getadmiral.com (Full disclosure: I'm a co-founder at Admiral)

I’m not seeing where the free analytics is on the homepage (at least on mobile). But I’m curious - do you have any off the cuff stats on what is typical as far as % of users with Adblock across various types of audiences?

Tech-related sites can have 40%+ desktop adblocking. Mobile blocking is usually Also, on the pricing page there's a "Get Free Analytics" button that you should be able to click. If you have any issues you can let me know: james at getadmiral.

Re: Cloudflare’s privacy-first Web Analytics is now available for everyone

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Post by Fiveplus »

jplevine wrote: post #51
zmxv wrote: post #49

I've just integrated it with my pet project at varten.com. It's a very smooth experience, and data points started to show up on the Cloudflare dashboard within a few minutes. One minor downside: it doesn't work on clients with JavaScript turned off.

(PM for Cloudflare Analytics here) Thanks! If you do end up "orange clouding" and proxying your site through Cloudflare, we can show you lots of stats about your website, even from clients that don't support JS :)

My website, like many, uses Cloudflare's CDN.

I occasionally spend time going through the analytics section inside the dashboard. I suppose those are data points gathered by your edge servers (?). If true - how is that different from what is launched today?

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