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With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by comfyinnernet »

gentleman11 wrote: post #536
comfyinnernet wrote: post #457

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It doesn't even matter whether someone is cheating. All that matters is whether they're ruining the game. You don't need a rootkit to determine that.

Would you ban tower rushers in starcraft/warcraft2/warcraft3?

Maybe! The real problem is to help people avoid people they want to avoid, not banning clients on technical grounds. A genuine attempt at solving the problem wouldn't be based on universal bans. There could be groups who have their own blacklists. Find the groups you agree with and tick boxes to subscribe to their ideas of who should be banned.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by toyg »

jcelerier wrote: post #525
toyg wrote: post #485

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Windows actually used to be decent and fairly consistent, but I agree that it's gone to shit in the last decade. They botched scaling to HiDpi and fragmented their UIs in the sad attempt to chase convergence with touch UIs.

did it ? except win 3.1 (but then I was a small kid) I remember a huge majority of apps having their own little fancy skins in 98, XP, etc

Majority? Not as I recall it. Some, yeah - famously winamp, which made it compulsory for music players (hence generating a river of tacky UIs). But in my world the majority of apps had the good old “top-bar-menu-icons, File menu, Edit menu, etc” format.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by suifbwish »

aaomidi wrote: post #22

Another Linux gamer. I seriously don't miss windows anymore. At this point I'm not worried about compatibility, but rather shitty game companies banning you the second they figure out you're playing on linux. This is especially an issue in PvE heavy games that have only small PvP elements. Looking at you Destiny 2. I really wish companies stopped their draconian policies about Linux gaming. Or at the very least just…

If a game dev team thinks they can stop people from gaining an unfair advantage from just preventing people from running Linux they are morons. Even if you were in Windows you have to do is setup an inverse Linux VM to operate on the local host network in which case it would essentially be a daemon. Even with cigwin and a few other tools, you can use strace to inject system calls and override values right into the PID of the game

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by drewzero1 »

waterhouse wrote: post #478
hombre_fatal wrote: post #282

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The problem with your idea is that nobody wants to play with cheaters. Everything that makes the game fun is defeated by a single cheater. So people are just going to choose between playing with 0 cheaters or go play a different game.

Years ago I read about some game service that detected cheating and put cheaters into games with other cheaters. The author said it was pretty effective.

Reminds me of Game Dev Tycoon's clever anti-piracy trick, where they released a "cracked" version of the game on file sharing sites shortly after launch. The "crack" disabled the copy protection but also changed the gameplay so that NPCs would pirate your products in-game and drive you out of (virtual) business.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by krageon »

Google234 wrote: post #528
krageon wrote: post #470

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It will if you configure it correctly.

Nah, there are many ways to detect virtualization

I know you are wrong (as in I have not seen the detection not beaten, it's probably hypothetically possible in some edge case - at least for a while), so you can only be speculating about the "many ways".

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by Macha »

pmontra wrote: post #550
jeena wrote: post #549

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Thunderbird, Kdenlive, Darktable, Gimp, KeePassXC, VLC, Minecraft Those are the ones I remember. I needed to install them via snap because the deb packages were too old to be able to open my files which I copied over from my Arch installation.

This prompted my to investigate. I'm on Thunderbird 68 and the latest release seems to be 78. I think I only need the features of Thunderbird from 15 years ago, so that's ok. VLC is 3.0.9.2 and GIMP is 2.10.18. No Kdeenlive, Darktable and Minecraft. I'm using KeePassX (not XC) version 2.0.3. Of course I would install snaps if I absolutely needed an app distributed only as snap but I'd rather use debs.

> I'm using KeePassX (not XC) version 2.0.3.

Note that KeePassXC is the continuation of KeePassX, which is defunct (last release in 2016, only two commits since for new Qt versions)

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by bozzcl »

WizardAustralis wrote: post #424
bozzcl wrote: post #48

I switched back from Pop!_OS about a month ago, after nearly a year of using it exclusively. My previous laptop broke, so I got a new one. Of course I immediately created a Pop! partition and started installing stuff. I tried Doom Eternal... and it was running extremely slow for what you'd expect from a RTX 2080. Surely enough, I switched to my Windows 10 partition and the game ran smooth like butter over there. I sp…

Thats interesting. I am running on a GTX 1650, so not what you would consider a real powerful card but it will run at just above 100fps at 1080p with everything maxed out. But that is with some frame stalls when it comes to, what I assume, shader compilation/texture load-transcoding. I am interested to see were the bottleneck could be.

I was thinking either thermal or power throttling. That's the biggest hurdle for high-end graphics cards on laptops.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by pojntfx »

inetknght wrote: post #188
pojntfx wrote: post #176

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Yeah, I've checked there already, but the steps just didn't seem to work for me (it's a .NET/Mono app). Maybe it's just my specific system configuration or something ...

There's an unofficial script which installs a bunch of dependencies in the correct order [0]. Run the autoprefix-patcher.py. It's unofficial and it's magic that I haven't taken too much time to understand. Your mileage may vary. [0] https://github.com/Linux74656/SpaceEngineersLinuxPatches

Thanks for the link! I'll be sure to try that out.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by runjake »

musicale wrote: post #343
runjake wrote: post #341

Seems like this gets posted every couple of weeks on HN. And I got duped into this. The caveat with this is that many games don’t work in multiplayer due to incompatible anti-chest software. Seems to have a pretty good track record in stand alone gaming though.

> incompatible anti-chest software That explains so much.

anti-cheat. Damned autocorrect :-)
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