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Re: Centos.rip

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Post by Nullabillity »

api wrote: post #24

The writing's been on the wall ever since IBM acquired RedHat, not to mention the fact that the Linux world is otherwise converging on Debian-derived distros. I personally hope the Linux world converges. There are too many needless distributions whose only major difference is branding and a few file locations and other minor quibbling choices. There is absolutely no value in having both a Debian and RedHat/CentOS in…

Eh, while I agree that RHEL feels pretty redundant in a world where Debian exists, there are some distros that absolutely bring something new that you couldn't do as a Debian downstream (in particular, NixOS).

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Post by simonh »

I appreciate the suggestions for alternative Linux server distros, and understand people asking about such, but CentOS wasn't just another decent Linux server distro. It's status as a direct rebuild of RHEL, crucially including robust binary compatibility, gave it a unique role. Ubuntu LTS, Alpine, Debian, etc are all fine distros but there's a particular role for a very precise completely open and free RHEL clone.

Hopefully the same forces that lead to the creation of CentOS will Also lead to the establishment of a replacement project, and there are hopeful signs in that direction.

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Post by elric »

skrebbel wrote: post #47

Not knowing much about Linux distros, can anyone explain the popularity of CentOS to me? I mean, having used it only a few times, my impression of CentOS is "a Linux with lots of horribly outdated software, in the name of compatibility and well-testedness". Eg when I used it last, the PHP version it shipped with was 8 years old. Now, I understand the appeal of that to certain super risk averse enterprises who value s…

The big appeal is (was?) stability and the huge LTS window. But unlike RHEL, it's free as in beer. If you're after the bleeding edge, CentOS is probably not for you. But if you want a system with regular security updates and not too many surprises, it's a really good candidate.

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Post by kklimonda »

ddevault wrote: post #17

I would advise anyone who's using this as an opportunity to move on to greener pastures in terms of distributions to consider Alpine Linux: https://alpinelinux.org SourceHut runs entirely on Alpine, as do my personal workstations. It is extremely reliable, stable, and robust; maintainable over long periods of time with minimal effort; and small and simple enough to be easily understood by everyone responsible for its…

Alpine is still linked against musl and not glibc, right? That is a rather large departure, and potentially more problematic than small package repository (usually the smaller repository, the easier it is to package your own stuff from scratch - I assume it beats rpm and deb at that).

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Post by edsemail123 »

znpy wrote: post #9

That was a good laugh, thank you. Now it's time to go back at freaking out.

Freaking out over what? CentOS stopped being a production OS as soon as "I've Been Moved" ingested it...were you just not paying attention? ;)

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Post by sigzero »

alfyboy wrote: post #11
bem94 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2020-Dece...

Oh, wow. I'm running CentOS 8 on my home server. Anyone have any recomendations for a good, stable, home server OS?

Debian

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Post by rodolphoarruda »

api wrote: post #29
JayDoubleu wrote: post #20

This should really be called RIP RedHat tbh. They've just shot themselves in both feet.

Why the hell do huge companies spend tons to acquire things and then kill them? This seems to happen more in computing than other industries. You don't see shipping companies buying completely functional container ships so they can park them out in the middle of the ocean and dynamite a hole in the hull and watch them go glug glug glug for the lulz.

I suspect there are far too many spreadsheet versions flying around in an acquisition process.

Once the acquired company numbers are loaded into the right spreadsheets that reflect reality in business ops, executives will see a bunch of cells in yellow and red color... which is not good.

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

JayDoubleu wrote: post #20

This should really be called RIP RedHat tbh. They've just shot themselves in both feet.

Maybe, probably not short-term though; they still have (I guess?) tens of thousands or more active licenses, which are committed to using it because replacing it will be a lengthy and expensive project.

But these companies may start migrating. It'll take 5-10 years for that to be completed though.

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Post by Wheaties466 »

skrebbel wrote: post #47

Not knowing much about Linux distros, can anyone explain the popularity of CentOS to me? I mean, having used it only a few times, my impression of CentOS is "a Linux with lots of horribly outdated software, in the name of compatibility and well-testedness". Eg when I used it last, the PHP version it shipped with was 8 years old. Now, I understand the appeal of that to certain super risk averse enterprises who value s…

its known for being super stable and battle tested. As long as your application didn't need features from OS's from the past year and just needed stable binaries and a stable OS. Centos was the best option in terms of stability and security.

At least that is how it was seen.

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