as a side note, the design of the parody centos.rip website is a pretty decent clean wordpress or other CMS template, if they didn't build it by hand.
Centos.rip
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#43This should really be called RIP RedHat tbh. They've just shot themselves in both feet.
Why the hell do huge companies spend tons to acquire things and then kill them? This seems to happen more in computing than other industries. You don't see shipping companies buying completely functional container ships so they can park them out in the middle of the ocean and dynamite a hole in the hull and watch them go glug glug glug for the lulz.
Totally just blurting out from the top of my head, but I'm guessing it's more because digital things are intangible.
The tech and talent is still being used, like the cargo ships in your example, it's just the competition that's been killed.
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#44This should really be called RIP RedHat tbh. They've just shot themselves in both feet.
Why the hell do huge companies spend tons to acquire things and then kill them? This seems to happen more in computing than other industries. You don't see shipping companies buying completely functional container ships so they can park them out in the middle of the ocean and dynamite a hole in the hull and watch them go glug glug glug for the lulz.
What makes you think that CentOS was killed? It will be available and actively maintained.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
One could pull the same trick that CentOS pulled: check-out all the sources, replace all the logos and trademarks and rebuild. I honestly hope this is what's going to happen.
https://lwn.net/Articles/786422/ That didn't age well. Maybe we'll see a Scientific Linux comeback.
I'm not sure that CERN would like to work on it full steam but, it'd be great though.
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#47Not knowing much about Linux distros, can anyone explain the popularity of CentOS to me?
I mean, having used it only a few times, my impression of CentOS is "a Linux with lots of horribly outdated software, in the name of compatibility and well-testedness". Eg when I used it last, the PHP version it shipped with was 8 years old.
Now, I understand the appeal of that to certain super risk averse enterprises who value stability over any kind of developer or user happiness (including the ability to run latests versions of userland software that happens to require somewhat recent php/python/etc versions). But aren't those exactly the kinds of enterprises that would want normal RHEL licenses anyway? If you scratch those out, what audience is left? Why would I run such ancient software for any technical reason?
I know this sounds dismissive, but I don't know how else to formulate this and I'd like to understand this. I think I understand RHEL and I think I understand Fedora, but I never got the appeal of CentOS.
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#48My existential dread about this is worsened when I read suggestions that the best possible alternative is Oracle Linux...
Oracle linux is not an alternative to anything. Anything with the name Oracle is no longer alternative to anything either.
No bullshit, but my org went to Oracle Linux and we haven't had any issues whatsoever.
Not saying to switch to it, but it isn't like the server implodes if you disconnect a credit card swiper from it.
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#49Not knowing much about Linux distros, can anyone explain the popularity of CentOS to me? I mean, having used it only a few times, my impression of CentOS is "a Linux with lots of horribly outdated software, in the name of compatibility and well-testedness". Eg when I used it last, the PHP version it shipped with was 8 years old. Now, I understand the appeal of that to certain super risk averse enterprises who value s…
It is indeed extremely conservative and behind the cutting edge on many things. Thus it's incorporated into things that need to 'just work' but don't need any advanced features, like the freepbx version of the main centos distro (a custom distro shipped by the sangoma company which now owns asterisk).
Generally whatever is in it is even older than debian-stable which also take a very conservative and cautious approach to rolling out new packages.
If you need to install a specific new version of a thing there is always elrepo and EPEL, which you can enable as a custom repository. I have one system that has a very recent 5.x series kernel running on a voip server, as a xen guest, because performance is much better with a kernel that's aware of all the most recent inter-kernel xen paravirtualization hooks.
http://elrepo.org/tiki/HomePage
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL
example from my notes follows.
sudo rpm --import https://www.elrepo.org/RPM-GPG-KEY-elrepo.org
sudo yum install https://www.elrepo.org/elrepo-release-7.el7.elrepo.noarch.rp...
[myusername@freepbx ~]$ sudo yum --enablerepo=elrepo-kernel install kernel-ml Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, versionlock Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * elrepo: elrepo.org * elrepo-kernel: elrepo.org elrepo | 2.9 kB 00:00:00 elrepo-kernel | 2.9 kB 00:00:00 sng-base | 3.6 kB 00:00:00 sng-epel | 2.9 kB 00:00:00 sng-extras | 2.9 kB 00:00:00 sng-pkgs | 3.4 kB 00:00:00 sng-updates | 2.9 kB 00:00:00 (1/3): sng-pkgs/7-8.2003.3.el7.sangoma/x86_64/primary_db | 782 kB 00:00:00 (2/3): elrepo/primary_db | 479 kB 00:00:00 (3/3): elrepo-kernel/primary_db | 1.9 MB 00:00:01 Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package kernel-ml.x86_64 0:5.9.7-1.el7.elrepo will be installed --> Finished Dependency Resolution
Dependencies Resolved
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Package Arch Version Repository Size
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Installing: kernel-ml x86_64 5.9.7-1.el7.elrepo elrepo-kernel 51 M
Transaction Summary
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Install 1 Package
Total download size: 51 M Installed size: 233 M Is this ok [y/d/N]: y Downloading packages: kernel-ml-5.9.7-1.el7.elrepo.x86_64.rpm | 51 MB 00:00:03 Running transaction check Running transaction test Transaction test succeeded Running transaction Installing : kernel-ml-5.9.7-1.el7.elrepo.x86_64 1/1
Verifying : kernel-ml-5.9.7-1.el7.elrepo.x86_64 1/1
Complete!
may need to set the new kernel to boot in /etc/default/grub https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Grub2
[myusername@freepbx ~]$ sudo awk -F\' '$1=="menuentry " {print i++ " : " $2}' /etc/grub2.cfg [sudo] password for myusername: 0 : Sangoma Linux (5.9.7-1.el7.elrepo.x86_64) 7 (Core) 1 : Sangoma Linux (3.10.0-1127.10.1.el7.x86_64) 7 (Core)
grub2-set-default 0
reboot
ssh to the system
[myusername@freepbx ~]$ uname -a Linux freepbx.sangoma.local 5.9.7-1.el7.elrepo.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 10 09:56:43 EST 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
confirm that we're using the xen PV on HVM drivers in the kernel for much better performance
[root@freepbx .ssh]# dmesg |grep -i xen [ 0.000000] DMI: Xen HVM domU, BIOS 4.11.4 10/01/2020 [ 0.000000] Hypervisor detected: Xen HVM [ 0.000000] Xen version 4.11. [ 0.000000] Xen Platform PCI: I/O protocol version 1 [ 0.000000] Netfront and the Xen platform PCI driver have been compiled for this kernel: unplug emulated NICs. [ 0.000000] Blkfront and the Xen platform PCI driver have been compiled for this kernel: unplug emulated disks. [ 0.034434] ACPI: RSDP 0x00000000000F5A30 000024 (v02 Xen ) [ 0.034440] ACPI: XSDT 0x00000000FC00A8D0 000054 (v01 Xen HVM 00000000 HVML 00000000) [ 0.034448] ACPI: FACP 0x00000000FC00A5F0 0000F4 (v04 Xen HVM 00000000 HVML 00000000) [ 0.034456] ACPI: DSDT 0x00000000FC0012C0 0092A3 (v02 Xen HVM 00000000 INTL 20181213) [ 0.034469] ACPI: APIC 0x00000000FC00A6F0 000070 (v02 Xen HVM 00000000 HVML 00000000) [ 0.034474] ACPI: HPET 0x00000000FC00A7E0 000038 (v01 Xen HVM 00000000 HVML 00000000) [ 0.034478] ACPI: WAET 0x00000000FC00A820 000028 (v01 Xen HVM 00000000 HVML 00000000) [ 0.034483] ACPI: SSDT 0x00000000FC00A850 000031 (v02 Xen HVM 00000000 INTL 20181213) [ 0.034487] ACPI: SSDT 0x00000000FC00A890 000031 (v02 Xen HVM 00000000 INTL 20181213) [ 0.040587] Booting paravirtualized kernel on Xen HVM [ 0.040782] xen: PV spinlocks enabled [ 0.065203] xen:events: Using FIFO-based ABI [ 0.065210] xen:events: Xen HVM callback vector for event delivery is enabled [ 0.137093] clocksource: xen: mask: 0xffffffffffffffff max_cycles: 0x1cd42e4dffb, max_idle_ns: 881590591483 ns [ 0.137105] Xen: using vcpuop timer interface [ 0.137113] installing Xen timer for CPU 0 [ 0.137489] installing Xen timer for CPU 1 [ 0.140515] xenbus: xs_reset_watches failed: -38 [ 0.504443] xen: --> pirq=16 -> irq=9 (gsi=9) [ 0.560804] xen:balloon: Initialising balloon driver [ 0.578529] clocksource: Switched to clocksource xen [ 0.593233] xen: --> pirq=17 -> irq=8 (gsi=8) [ 0.593278] xen: --> pirq=18 -> irq=12 (gsi=12) [ 0.593321] xen: --> pirq=19 -> irq=1 (gsi=1) [ 0.593362] xen: --> pirq=20 -> irq=6 (gsi=6) [ 0.981024] xen: --> pirq=21 -> irq=24 (gsi=24) [ 0.981232] xen:grant_table: Grant tables using version 1 layout [ 1.005806] xenbus_probe_frontend: Device with no driver: device/vbd/51712 [ 1.005806] xenbus_probe_frontend: Device with no driver: device/vkbd/0 [ 1.005807] xenbus_probe_frontend: Device with no driver: device/vif/0 [ 1.022168] systemd[1]: Detected virtualization xen. [ 1.436682] xen_netfront: Initialising Xen virtual ethernet driver [ 2.850090] input: Xen Virtual Keyboard as /devices/virtual/input/input6 [ 2.851114] input: Xen Virtual Pointer as /devices/virtual/input/input7
Re: Centos.rip
#50I hope someone resurrects Whitebox Linux. I just liked the name and that it communicates litterally same thing as the other guy but cheaper since you aren’t paying for the brand.
Might be able to pun off of “President’s Choice” = “PC” = “Personal Computer” somehow as well.