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Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley's supremacy

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Re: Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley's supremacy

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Post by tekknik »

joshuamorton wrote: post #957
tekknik wrote: post #945

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Yet you’ll notice they’re not on the top of the list, therefore my statement stands: https://www.statista.com/statistics/196114/top-10-us-states-...

"Pretty much anywhere other than SF can have fresher food." Says nothing about being limited to the 7 states with more farms than California (to say nothing of the different crops that are grown on these farms: Iowa grows almost entirely corn and grains, so your fresh produce is going to be limited, or you'll be getting things from smaller boutique farms, which you'll find in all states and so produce depends mostly…

> you’ll be getting things from smaller boutique farms

Bingo!!

Re: Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley's supremacy

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Post by Apocryphon »

xvedejas wrote: post #889
dcolkitt wrote: post #821

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> The Bay Area is very walkable but that’s mainly SF. The tech burbs of Palo Alto , Menlo Park are not super walkable and you are relying on the BART and other public transport . Even SF is not very walkable compared to Chicago, DC, Philly, Boston, etc. (All significantly cheaper than SF.) Even by American standards, the BART is a pretty second-rate metro. (And that's not even counting the fact that nowadays it's ess…

To push back a bit: SF proper must have the best bus system of any city in the US. It's possible to get pretty much anywhere in a reasonable amount of time, even late at night, with just a quick bus ride or two. I won't say MUNI is perfect but it's doing a lot of things right. Anyone who thinks BART is synonymous with SF's inner city transportation is really not making their way around the city by transit.

On the other hand, MUNI is incredibly overcrowded along certain lines now, and conditions on the buses are often filthy (though perhaps that's common in all dense large U.S. cities).

Re: Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley's supremacy

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Post by mixmastamyk »

chucky_z wrote: post #452
mixmastamyk wrote: post #435

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You train them, remember that? :D

This is legitimately what we're doing. We're bringing in really junior folks and spending years training/improving them. Unfortunately that doesn't help now . I thought it would be easier this year to hire due to COVID and layoffs, but it just hasn't been.

It helps now if you started a year or two ago. ((sad trombone))

Re: Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley's supremacy

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Post by gamechangr »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #751
treeman79 wrote: post #746

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It’s pretty dangerous to go against the culture these days. I’ve been singled out for trying to stay out of PC culture. Backed into a coroner of either actively agree with everything PC or “consequences”.

"Backed into a coroner" is, I presume, a typo, but it does very well at communicating the sense of danger...

I thought it wss a play on words for sure

Re: Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley's supremacy

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Post by jjeaff »

newfriend wrote: post #198
jjeaff wrote: post #58

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Ya, imagine if someone like, accused the American voting system of being totally corrupt, without evidence and then specifically called out 3-4 of the largest majority Black population cities as being the root of corruption. And specifically called out all the poll workers (most of which are Black) in those cities as being corrupt cheaters. Just imagine the uproar. No one in their right mind would stand behind someon…

Being black doesn't make you immune to criticism and scrutiny.

Of course not. But America's sad history of accusing Black people of crimes or actions they didn't commit means we must be extra careful when making accusations.

In this particular case, the surrounding white suburbs actually voted in larger percentages for Biden vs last time. The primarily Black urban areas voted similarly as they did last election and the one before.

But those white suburbs are not being accused of cheating.

Re: Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley's supremacy

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Post by ummonk »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #554
ummonk wrote: post #472

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I think there are two issues here. First, housing is somewhat inelastic in that it takes multiple years to respond to a rise in demand and plan out and build new housing even with a reasonably fast permitting / approval process. Second, due to labor and materials costs, the price of housing in many areas is far below the cost to build new housing so housing prices will necessarily go up even with maximum build rates.…

>Second, due to labor and materials costs, the price of housing in many areas is far below the cost to build new housing so housing prices will necessarily go up even with maximum build rates. Specifically, the cost of land is what causes the cost to build to be so high. Owning unproductive land is cheap, and incentivizes simply holding onto it until it appreciates sufficiently.

Well the cost of land worsens housing prices, but even assuming the land is of negligible value the cost of construction itself will make new houses quite pricey compared to older homes in non-bubbly markets.

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Post by birdyrooster »

FpUser wrote: post #698
victorronin wrote: post #584

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"There is nothing special about managers." Managers are very often (especially in a bigger organization) is the only channel how information flows to owners. As a result, managers can paint very different picture of the same situation (as an example, that people working remotely from home are less productive). May be in some abstract world, "managers are just employees and there is nothing special". In reality they w…

>"As a result, managers can paint very different picture of the same situation..." What you describing is a fraud. In a big organization managers are not uniform group, there are multiple levels and factions. They will happily report on each other if the picture is grossly distorted. There are also a lot of metrics and built in controls in big orgs that can and are being used to estimate how particular policy affects…

The services and products companies have been delivering during the pandemic were developed largely before the pandemic. Owners can see this. It’s not just low level managers, rather it’s about middle managements perspective in general.

Management and cross organizational relations rely on rapport and relationships amongst baby boomers and Gen X people who greatly prefer in person interaction. Maybe engineers won’t come back to the office, but they sure will be.

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Post by bitmunk »

greensquirrel wrote: post #779
habosa wrote: post #689

In the last 10-15 years San Francisco gained a ton of residents that didn't want to be there at all. They moved there because the job opportunities in tech were too hard to turn down. I had some friends like this, they just never really liked the city. Now they're all leaving because their job is not making them stay. That's fine and I'm happy they have more choices now. But there's a flip side to that. One of my lea…

> they just never really liked the city. Pretty hard to like a city where a non-trivial portion of the residents are hating on you and blaming you and others like you for many problems of their own doing. I left a year ago and I personally hope both San Francisco and all of California suffers fiscal collapse. The state grossly mistreats it's most productive citizens, when its those very citizens that fund the greates…

> I personally hope both San Francisco and all of California suffers fiscal collapse.

And you are surprised that the residents hate you? I dislike plenty of cities but ideating about their absolute collapse speaks a lot.

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Post by burnthrow »

cultofmetatron wrote: post #904
burnthrow wrote: post #383

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I'm a fan of fair career opportunities for women even if it means I have to work harder to find a date/mate.

my post has nothing to do with career opportunities for women.

To be fair, you'll have a much better time down there if you maintain the fantasy that you were a charming model all along and that American women are cold prudes. Wealthy geeks finding fulfillment of their "so rich that models have to fuck me" dream in the third world is a bit of a trope.
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