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> People who use CentOS want a boring Linux distro like RHEL. They just don't want to pay for RHEL subscriptions. How dare they want a free operating system?
How dare tens of thousands of developers produce a free operating system, and it gets sold by one business who added graphics of a trademarked hat?
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Isn't Amazon Linux basically the same? Or is that a fork of CentOS in the first place?
Can I download and run Amazon Linux at home (non-vm)?
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And Scientific Linux, and Amazon Linux, etc.
SL never released version 8 (they switched to CentOS8). Amazon (correct me if I'm wrong) does not release installer ISOs. AFAIK, closest to a plain free RHEL8 clone is Oracle Linux.
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It's a money grab, pure and simple. They've (Redhat, let alone IBM) done it before (see below). What happens in practice with this sort of "rolling release" is users end up patching endlessly in production, which no sane person or organization would ever want to do. This was the exact situation for another Redhat acquisition for years now. JBoss EAP and community editions (wildfly now I suppose), everyone who could m…
Except IBM thinks that this will convert everyone to RHEL licenses and I'm positive that is not what's going to happen. Ubuntu is already the default for people with ML pipelines and more and more vendors are targeting Ubuntu first for their software. CentOS will be effectively dead for a lot of companies starting next year (or 2024). (At least we aren't planning on licensing 10^5 systems on RHEL...). I imagine for t…
Is this just a ploy to get RHEL licensing $$$ while another project emerges to provide what CentOS used to? The whole point of CentOS was to be a carbon copy of RHEL. Then RedHat bought them and now this... If you successfully fill that void, maybe you too can be acquired by IBM/RH in a few years as they repeat the cycle.
This is an opportunity. Imagine Amazon stepping in and funding the CentOS replacement. They'd capture a huge chunk of the SME market within two years.
Amazon already has its own distribution in the form of Amazon Linux, a derivative of RHEL. Seems like a short walk to provide an unsupported, Amazon branded, bare metal RHEL-based distribution that also happens to align its users with AWS. The really smart thing would be to start there but then fork slowly and eventually diverge from RHEL in fundamental ways.
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Wonder if the web hosting industry will rebel and build another RHEL clone project that just gets the 10-year supported patches. Red Hat still has to release the patches, right? A really big chunk of the world's traditionally shared hosted websites run on CentOS, because most commercial control panel packages and hosting automation systems are built for that. A rebadged CentOS is also AWS's default distro. Wonder of…
That already exists and is called CloudLinux. It is very cheap but not free. Other RHEL-clones: Oracle Linux (best one), Springdale Linux. Other alternatives: openSUSE Leap and Debian. I am not even listing Ubuntu because I hate it since snaps.
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That would be cool "stick it to the man" trick, but how do we organize?
Well, GoDaddy, or heh, AWS are The Man. My best hope is that the major hosting vendors, or maybe some industry consortium might offer resources for this.
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SL never released version 8 (they switched to CentOS8). Amazon (correct me if I'm wrong) does not release installer ISOs. AFAIK, closest to a plain free RHEL8 clone is Oracle Linux.
There's also Springdale Linux.
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> People who use CentOS want a boring Linux distro like RHEL. They just don't want to pay for RHEL subscriptions. How dare they want a free operating system?
How dare tens of thousands of developers produce a free operating system, and it gets sold by one business who added graphics of a trademarked hat?
This is awful. It's proof of the downsides to the IBM acquisition, which I think we all knew was coming. Imagine if you were running a business, and deployed CentOS 8 based on the 10 year lifespan promise. You're totally screwed now, and Red Hat knows it. Why on earth didn't they make this switch starting with CentOS 9???? Let's not sugar coat this. They've betrayed their users. I personally run a CentOS 7 server (as…
Wonder if the web hosting industry will rebel and build another RHEL clone project that just gets the 10-year supported patches. Red Hat still has to release the patches, right? A really big chunk of the world's traditionally shared hosted websites run on CentOS, because most commercial control panel packages and hosting automation systems are built for that. A rebadged CentOS is also AWS's default distro. Wonder of…
Q: What does this mean for users of CentOS Linux?
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In the first half of 2021, we will be introducing low- or no-cost programs for a variety of use cases, including options for open source projects and communities, partner ecosystems and an expansion of the use cases of the Red Hat Enterprise Linux Developer subscription to better serve the needs of systems administrators and partner developers. We’ll share more details on these initiatives as they become available. For those converting to RHEL, there is guidance available today for converting from CentOS Linux to RHEL.
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