Falling Out of Love with Apple, Part 3: Content and Censorship

Post by jsjohnst » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 12:45 PM UTC

webmobdev wrote: post #240

jsjohnst wrote: post #235

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And how does that dispute anything I said? I wasn’t making a claim that the AppStore commission is warranted or not, I was speaking to what retail stores charge. I get it, you think Apple is out of line, but maybe reply to someone who is claiming it’s justified rather than pointing your vitriol towards me?

I was bringing the debate back to what it was about, not "spewing vitriol" at you.

Post by sjs382 » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 2:18 PM UTC

lern_too_spel wrote: post #215

sjs382 wrote: post #209

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> Once I subscribed to New York times. The newspaper that was advertised to me for years in all Hollywood movies as a place where honesty and freedom are of highest priority. I had to spend an hour on a phone with their representatives to cancel it refusing to accept discount or a free subscription. SAME. Somewhere deep in my comment history here, I tell the story of trying to cancel NYT, and needing to do it three t…

I had the same problem and contacted my state representative and my congressperson. This has since been fixed by regulation in California, and by having to follow California's laws, most companies' subscription services have been fixed for everybody.

Post by ubermonkey » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 3:10 PM UTC

yepthatsreality wrote: post #169

ubermonkey wrote: post #151

Honestly, the arguments in this series of posts are not strong. I laughed out loud when I got to his complaints about Apple's headphone chips and the ease of pairing they allow -- and how it's somehow unfair that Apple, having developed this competitive advantage, is refusing to share it with other companies. What IS it about Apple that makes a certain class of tech geek feel like they have to dislike them in such a…

> What IS it about Apple that makes a certain class of tech geek feel like they have to dislike them in such a public and performative way? Ask yourself the reverse too while you're at it: > What IS it about Apple that makes a certain class of tech geek feel like they have to like them in such a public and performative way?

Post by ubermonkey » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 3:15 PM UTC

varispeed wrote: post #182

JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #164

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And, on the converse side, why is there a class of tech geek that always strongly defends Apple in the comments? No matter how strong or weak the original criticism is, the top comment basically laughs it out of the room. It is never taken seriously. Could we not equally characterize the defenses as 'public and performative' as well, and if not, why not? In either case, I agree with you people generally have strong f…

It's usually people who feel sour about spending their savings on Apple product and want to justify it so hard, they'll try to shut down anyone with even a hint of criticism for that product. They just cannot feel they might be in the wrong. It's actually an effective litmus test for one's personality and you can more easily filter out your circle based on how well people take such criticism.

Post by fsflover » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 4:14 PM UTC

zepto wrote: post #258

fsflover wrote: post #247

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I disagree. The original quote: " I really don't want to be forced to buy an Android phone ". One can interpret it in a way that the person does not want to be forced into Android as the only alternative to Apple. In this case, my comment should be helpful.

You edited out the first sentence which read: “Please don’t stop them.”