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With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by OJFord »

toyg wrote: post #315
OJFord wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have consistency between GTK/Qt, or only within each? I've never really bothered to set it up (just installed some theme I pulled a name from Arch wiki for, so buttons look like they're from this century) because I assumed I could go to a load of effort and still notice which is used for each program I use. And then find myself caring which I install if I have the option, or not wanting to if it's only availab…

With a bit of effort it’s a solved problem, however as soon as that was sorted, developers started using snaps and flatpaks that just Do Not Care about your system settings... and we’re back at square -1, because now you won’t even get consistency between Gtk apps and Gtk apps. The Linux desktop sometimes is like a bad comedy sketch.

Well now I've gone from not caring about snap/flatpak (only selling point seemed to be ease of install; I've never had a problem with arch & the AUR) to making mental note to steer well clear if the temptation ever began to set in.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by OJFord »

p1necone wrote: post #286
OJFord wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have consistency between GTK/Qt, or only within each? I've never really bothered to set it up (just installed some theme I pulled a name from Arch wiki for, so buttons look like they're from this century) because I assumed I could go to a load of effort and still notice which is used for each program I use. And then find myself caring which I install if I have the option, or not wanting to if it's only availab…

You can set up QT to use GTK themes (seems like this is the default in KDE Plasma): https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uniform_look_for_Qt_and... I currently just don't have any QT based apps on my Arch system though I don't think.

Ah, thanks, I think it's adwaita (mentioned there) that I picked at (pseudo)random, so maybe I already have it.

Not sure if I have any either to be honest, but that's what I mean, I like not worrying about it.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by arvinsim »

I installed Pop!_OS last month and Proton has seriously moved most of my non-AAA gaming time off Windows. Indie titles and 2D games run flawlessly at it.

I never thought Linux gaming has improved so much. Heck, Steam has more available titles in Linux than in my Mac.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by julianlam »

p1necone wrote: post #319
toyg wrote: post #315

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With a bit of effort it’s a solved problem, however as soon as that was sorted, developers started using snaps and flatpaks that just Do Not Care about your system settings... and we’re back at square -1, because now you won’t even get consistency between Gtk apps and Gtk apps. The Linux desktop sometimes is like a bad comedy sketch.

Do snaps/flatpaks really not look at your local configs? Thats... terrible. I've avoided them already anyway because they seem like wholly unnecessary (and quite significant) bloat.

No, probably because that's outside their scope and so they're not allowed to read them.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by cwyers »

robotnikman wrote: post #201
jsheard wrote: post #183

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There's been no word of Vulkan support in the public Windows build though, as far as we know it only uses DirectX 12

So they have Vulkan support because of stadia but won't release it publicly? That's kinda stupid

I think people should start thinking of Stadia as "a console that happens to use the Linux kernel," not as a server running a Linux distro. It's getting the equivalent of a console port.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by shuringai »

aaomidi wrote: post #22

Another Linux gamer. I seriously don't miss windows anymore. At this point I'm not worried about compatibility, but rather shitty game companies banning you the second they figure out you're playing on linux. This is especially an issue in PvE heavy games that have only small PvP elements. Looking at you Destiny 2. I really wish companies stopped their draconian policies about Linux gaming. Or at the very least just…

While I do share your frustration on linux gaming I thought to give sound to the opposing side who simply had this coming oit of a risk analysis.

TL;DR - it's indeed much easier to cheat on linux

After decades of fighting wars with crackers/reversers and all anti-debug/anti-cheat methods proven unusable against russian teenagers, AAA companies reached out to microsoft to get their undocumented binary "drivers" into the system which you cannot inspect from userspace.

With linux coming into the party, even if with the amazing work by Wine you do manage to get the desired anti-debug behaviour on the emulated userspace app, linux people can make arbitrary hooks on their kernels.

So instead of risking major reddit shitstorms over that 1% players that can cause 3% profit loss, it's better to ditch that 1%

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by refracture »

ldd wrote: post #135
aaomidi wrote: post #22

Another Linux gamer. I seriously don't miss windows anymore. At this point I'm not worried about compatibility, but rather shitty game companies banning you the second they figure out you're playing on linux. This is especially an issue in PvE heavy games that have only small PvP elements. Looking at you Destiny 2. I really wish companies stopped their draconian policies about Linux gaming. Or at the very least just…

I was seriously considering adding Linux support for my game, that already has turn-based multiplayer, and this thread was the last thing I needed to convince myself it could work. Performance may be an issue. I wonder if people would be ok with electron games sold on steam running on linux...

We always appreciate the effort.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by Stephen304 »

offtop5 wrote: post #24
thekyle wrote: post #13

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The bugs are probably still there on the Windows version but those users are less accustomed to filling bug reports.

Or Unity Linux is less stable ? Like if y'all really want I can upload the Linux build and make it clear it's not going to work as well. I can't support every single distro after all

Isn't the Steam Linux Runtime supposed to handle the distro support problem? Or are there issues with that too? I was under the impression that Valve had essentially solved the distro support issue for Linux games distributed on Steam.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by z3t4 »

shuringai wrote: post #337
aaomidi wrote: post #22

Another Linux gamer. I seriously don't miss windows anymore. At this point I'm not worried about compatibility, but rather shitty game companies banning you the second they figure out you're playing on linux. This is especially an issue in PvE heavy games that have only small PvP elements. Looking at you Destiny 2. I really wish companies stopped their draconian policies about Linux gaming. Or at the very least just…

While I do share your frustration on linux gaming I thought to give sound to the opposing side who simply had this coming oit of a risk analysis. TL;DR - it's indeed much easier to cheat on linux After decades of fighting wars with crackers/reversers and all anti-debug/anti-cheat methods proven unusable against russian teenagers, AAA companies reached out to microsoft to get their undocumented binary "drivers" into t…

In a competitive game don't let clients dictate what the server does. Although I understand there is a performance issue. But clients should not be trusted.
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