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With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by idiot900 »

izacus wrote: post #98
marchenko wrote: post #83

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Forgive my ignorance, but why do game servers ban Linux players in pvp games? Fear of some sort of modding only available on Linux?

Modern anticheats are basically kernel rootkits which go even to the point of trying to checksum your drivers and inspect how they work. They're basically as invasive as they get. They obviously can't hook into Linux kernel so they react by just banning the player.

This is why I have a separate Windows PC for gaming, that I do not ever put personal information into, or use even to sign into my personal, non-gaming accounts (e.g. Gmail). Perhaps not a good solution for everyone, but I think that's what the world has come to.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by sergeykish »

drunner wrote: post #111

Those of you praising Proton, what distro and what gpu are you using? Are the days of nVidia bad, AMD good for driver support over?

You may be interested in https://www.gamingonlinux.com/index.php?module=statistics&vi... — AMD is on the rise (40% vs 56% NVIDIA), Arch based on the rise (39% vs 39% Ubuntu based), Pop!_OS among Ubuntu based, though I do not think there would be much difference among distributions.

I am not gamer anymore. I've had NVIDIA GPU, binary drivers were not pleasant experience, so bad that I've switched to Intel GPU. Today open source AMD GPU driver is a clear path forward, and it would improve with each release.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by idiot900 »

technofiend wrote: post #97
aaomidi wrote: post #22

Another Linux gamer. I seriously don't miss windows anymore. At this point I'm not worried about compatibility, but rather shitty game companies banning you the second they figure out you're playing on linux. This is especially an issue in PvE heavy games that have only small PvP elements. Looking at you Destiny 2. I really wish companies stopped their draconian policies about Linux gaming. Or at the very least just…

How does Stadia strike you as an alternative? It works on anything (AFAIK) that runs Chrome.

Stadia is really sensitive to lag. In my urban home, with a reliable high-speed broadband connection, it works pretty well when physically connected by Ethernet, but the stuttering is intolerable on wifi.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by Zardoz84 »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #198
offtop5 wrote: post #110

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Not really possible for many of us as we don't have the rights to distribute all the code. Wouldn't make much sense from a commercial pov

Both of those were true for DOOM, but Id did it anyway. It did take 4 years for the initial source release and an additional 2 more for GPL though. It is worth noting that DOOM is still selling today. Not that I'm saying any developer should feel compelled to do it.

And with Quake 1, 2 , 3 and Doom 3

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by Darmody »

SmokeyHamster wrote: post #149

Unfortunately, for many of the online games that have logins, Steam forces you to create a new login, since they track commissions based on the accounts created inside Steam. For Linux users, this if you want to use Steam, you have to start from scratch. I'd rather stick with Wine/Lutris, even if it is buggier.

You can use Proton even if you're not using Steam.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by Zardoz84 »

inetknght wrote: post #162

I've been using Linux as my main (and, really, only) personal OS since Windows 7 went EOL. I have an HTC Vive. There are many VR games that don't work at all even with Proton. There are many games that do work though. The only game that doesn't work that I truly miss is Planetside 2. But your typical big name games do work, even ones that aren't on Steam. Doom, Factorio, Kerbal Space Program, EVE Online -- these all…

Ctrl+Alt+ESC and click the window of the game

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by 29athrowaway »

mdoms wrote: post #215
person3 wrote: post #212

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In fairness, Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War crashes constantly for me on Windows. It's not a polished game on any platform. I agree though, the uncertainty is definitely an issue. Maybe if enough games start to get played on linux, this will be the push that's needed for game devs to start supporting games on linux (even if that means it's through wine).

The game may be unpolished and unstable but I can still boot it up and play it with my friends, which is more than I can say about Linux gamers.

It is not that Linux is not a viable gaming platform. It is just developers not publishing games for Linux.

Why? because:

1. Windows comes preinstalled on many computers.

2. People do not install Linux because they cannot play games on it.

3. Game developers won't publish on Linux because there are not enough users.

Is 3 the real problem, or is it 2? 2 is the real problem. If everyone committed to use Linux, game developers would follow immediately.

If you use Windows only for gaming then just buy a console, it is cheaper.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Post by Zardoz84 »

deadbunny wrote: post #146
drunner wrote: post #111

Those of you praising Proton, what distro and what gpu are you using? Are the days of nVidia bad, AMD good for driver support over?

Nvidia has always had great Linux drivers, the main problem with them being that they are dkim based so every now and then things get a bit screwey when upgrading your kernel. Thankfully this doesn't happen nearly as often as it used to. While I can't speak first hand for AMD as I've not owned an AMD/ATI card in decades I do know that AMD and Valve have dedicated Linux driver deveopers directly contributing them to t…

actually AMD drivers are open source and works better that NVIDA proprietary blob.

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Post by vetinari »

johnchristopher wrote: post #138
techelite wrote: post #104

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I'm a bit skeptical of all the positivity here. Heck if I can't edit mouse acceleration with ease, how hard is it going to be to watch Netflix? Do I need to downgrade chromium to 30.4 just to install some plugin incompatible with the v32 chromium? These are real issues that you'd expect Ubuntu to have working from defaults. I'm not asking for every porn website to work, but all FAANG websites to work.

Something's off but I chalk it up to beefy config and some specific games. None of my games run on my laptop (hd 520 igpu) I can play games like the witness on windows, hl2, the cave, the talos principle, portal 2, dead cells, etc. and none runs easily on Linux. Except Dott and kentucky route zero.

The Talos Principle has had a linux version for years, never had any problem running it.

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Post by kmeisthax »

akhosravian wrote: post #103
technofiend wrote: post #97

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How does Stadia strike you as an alternative? It works on anything (AFAIK) that runs Chrome.

Not op, but I think the biggest miss in cloud gaming is no one developing cloud first multiplayer games. Currently in any kind of client-server multiplayer game out there you face n+1 game states (n is the number of players) and a lot of the art is in how to reconcile these. The n+1 is due to most games implementing some degree of client autonomy (e.g. in movement), and the reality of network round trips from each cl…

This is actually one of the selling points Google brought up at the original Stadia announcement: you can't pirate or cheat in Stadia games since it's just an interactive video feed.

Of course, most people who play games don't like that - including myself.

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