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With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

#62

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I remember watching the DXVK developer work on Witcher 3 support. Progress was lightning fast and then, suddenly, Proton appeared. Even VR games work! Thank you, Valve. You guys are my low key hero's.

I recently ordered a Valve Index + gaming PC. How's the VR support on Linux looking like? I'd rather not install Windows if I have to.

I own a Valve index and have eben running it exclusively on a linux gaming PC for the last couple months. There are problems. The VR games themselves are generally good. Games generally "just work" but some of the other VR bits and pieces are troublesome. Each time I play I have to bounce around menus to enable sound through the headset. And very few media players work in linux (codex issues). Skybox VR works, but not on the latest version of proton. I still haven't figured out how to watch youtube in VR.

I would still recommend VR gaming under linux for all the same reasons I would recommend linux over windows generally, but not to a casual gamer expecting a seamless experience.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

#63

as i understand it the big roadblock for multiplayer AAA titles is anticheat, and dont see anyway that changes until linux eats into the MS marketshare (but it should.. linux is a joy!)

I have an anti-cheat startup, and Linux support is a big priority for us. The segmentation problem on Linux is a real challenge for us. It’s likely we will only ever be able to support the big distros, and we also are exploring using TPM remote attestation. Both of these things take away user freedom to tinker with their systems, an ability Linux enthusiasts enjoy. But with this freedom implicitly comes with the free…

> Both of these things take away user freedom to tinker with their systems, an ability Linux enthusiasts enjoy.

I just want to play video games and I use linux - in order to play multiplayer video games I need anticheat and this means giving that up.

I would also argue that other than a minority of vocal users no one wakes up in the morning looking forward to tinker with their system, we just sometimes have to, doesn't mean we like it.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

#64

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Sort of an extension of this: does Google Stadia availability imply an official build for linux? Are they under some kind of exclusivity agreement with regards to a linux version?

I think it's mostly that CDProjekt and GOG got called out by the Linux community for pulling support of the Witcher 3, and some other things. The CEO had a bit of a tantrum about it and now won't support Linux.

Witcher 2 for Linux was pretty crappy though.

It is about the only linux release I've never managed tu run.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

#65

as i understand it the big roadblock for multiplayer AAA titles is anticheat, and dont see anyway that changes until linux eats into the MS marketshare (but it should.. linux is a joy!)

Anticheats are anti-consumer; They restrict what you can do on your own machine. It's better not to have these games.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

#66

I got Flight Simulator working on linux... this is a dream come true. Thanks Proton/Steam :)

Holy cow, I use a Mac, Linux, PlayStation and Switch, literally all the major platforms FS2020 does not run on. I was this ->-<- close to getting an Xbox (when it's out) or a Windows machine just for that.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

#68
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This is really the nail in the coffin for Linux-native game ports. It's really, really hard to justify expending the effort

Maybe in the short term, but if it means a bigger part of the steam userbase is running games on Linux, it will become economically justified for more developers to work on first-party titles.

I've been hearing that line for close to two decades. I don't think Valve even supports their old GoldSrc games that they ported to run on Linux way back.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

#69

Can you use Proton for games you've purchased on GOG? I've been funneling more (not all) of my purchases to the DRM-free store front lately.

GOG is sadly not at all linux friendly. Not a surprise, given the owner.

You can look into lutris or GameHub and get the games to work via that.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

#70

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This is really not an issue, Steam has a standard runtime for instance, and bundling dependencies is always possible.

Steam has a standard runtime because it's such an issue.

Thus, a widely used, useful, solutions to the problem exists.

Its not like any game developer seriously worries that X is installed.

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