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With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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I would imagine a large part is segmentation. You can’t even guarantee that X is installed on the system. This is a hard problem since most games are proprietary. Edit: commenters make good counterpoints

This is really not an issue, Steam has a standard runtime for instance, and bundling dependencies is always possible.

Steam has a standard runtime because it's such an issue.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Gaming on Linux has been so fucking good. I switched from Windows to Linux a month ago and literally haven’t found a game I can’t play. Even Red Dead Redemption 2, Hades, Fallen Jedi, Ghostrunner... Oh the really icing on the cake is just how easy it all is. You literally just install the Windows version and things “just work.” Its amazing. I’ve said this a lot of times now but it’s pretty amazing to write code and p…

The only issues I've seen are with some games with third party libraries. Project Winter has been working on Linux for several months now, after some impressive efforts between the devs and the Linux fanbase.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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I have an anti-cheat startup, and Linux support is a big priority for us. The segmentation problem on Linux is a real challenge for us. It’s likely we will only ever be able to support the big distros, and we also are exploring using TPM remote attestation. Both of these things take away user freedom to tinker with their systems, an ability Linux enthusiasts enjoy. But with this freedom implicitly comes with the free…

Why would Linux be a priority with you when actually no one use that platform at scale where anticheat matters?

For the same reason that I have decided to have our CI build and test on ARMv8, even though hardly any (PC) games are on that architecture. I try to be forward thinking, even if it may be a longshot. Apple's M1 may just bring an era of even further segmentation of desktop platforms. I want to be prepared for that.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Another Linux gamer. I seriously don't miss windows anymore. At this point I'm not worried about compatibility, but rather shitty game companies banning you the second they figure out you're playing on linux. This is especially an issue in PvE heavy games that have only small PvP elements. Looking at you Destiny 2. I really wish companies stopped their draconian policies about Linux gaming. Or at the very least just…

> This is especially an issue in PvE heavy games that have only small PvP elements. Looking at you Destiny 2. About half of Destiny’s active playerbase PvPs. In content drought times, it’s pretty much what keeps the game alive. So yeah, simply false.

But you could play destiny as PvE game if you want

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Another Linux gamer. I seriously don't miss windows anymore. At this point I'm not worried about compatibility, but rather shitty game companies banning you the second they figure out you're playing on linux. This is especially an issue in PvE heavy games that have only small PvP elements. Looking at you Destiny 2. I really wish companies stopped their draconian policies about Linux gaming. Or at the very least just…

> This is especially an issue in PvE heavy games that have only small PvP elements. Looking at you Destiny 2. About half of Destiny’s active playerbase PvPs. In content drought times, it’s pretty much what keeps the game alive. So yeah, simply false.

I don't know why you're up in arms about this, but it's clearly not false. Almost all of the games content is PvE based. The PvP mode is very small in scope compared to everything else that's available.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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This is really the nail in the coffin for Linux-native game ports. It's really, really hard to justify expending the effort

When companies find that their games are already working on Linux, they may be able to justify spending a little extra effort on testing and fixing a couple of bugs here and there. Then over time it may become an officially supported configuration, and they may do Linux-specific optimizations or features. It's a stepping stone. Embrace, extend, extinguish in reverse!

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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I switched back from Pop!_OS about a month ago, after nearly a year of using it exclusively.

My previous laptop broke, so I got a new one. Of course I immediately created a Pop! partition and started installing stuff. I tried Doom Eternal... and it was running extremely slow for what you'd expect from a RTX 2080. Surely enough, I switched to my Windows 10 partition and the game ran smooth like butter over there. I spent some time looking at the issue but couldn't figure it out.

I decided to love back to Windows for the time being, enjoy the laptop and try again later on.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Another Linux gamer. I seriously don't miss windows anymore. At this point I'm not worried about compatibility, but rather shitty game companies banning you the second they figure out you're playing on linux. This is especially an issue in PvE heavy games that have only small PvP elements. Looking at you Destiny 2. I really wish companies stopped their draconian policies about Linux gaming. Or at the very least just…

> This is especially an issue in PvE heavy games that have only small PvP elements. Looking at you Destiny 2. About half of Destiny’s active playerbase PvPs. In content drought times, it’s pretty much what keeps the game alive. So yeah, simply false.

Right. But I don't care for PvP. I've never wanted to play PvP.

I enjoy the raids and the cooperative strikes with friends.

Even if it's what keeps the game alive, they have one less active player because I don't have the ability to play with my friends.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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> This is especially an issue in PvE heavy games that have only small PvP elements. Looking at you Destiny 2. About half of Destiny’s active playerbase PvPs. In content drought times, it’s pretty much what keeps the game alive. So yeah, simply false.

But you could play destiny as PvE game if you want

I could, but I would still get banned because of the anti cheat.
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