The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

Post by User23 » Mon, Dec 07, 2020, 4:21 AM UTC

wutbrodo wrote: post #141

m3kw9 wrote: post #135

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Startups usually have fridge full of booze. We usually use it on fridays or during certain major milestones. Not a big deal

This was the case for most teams I worked on at Google too; I would have an afternoon beer and work from the couch near the mini-fridge at least once a week (I was in my early 20s, so this was less impairing than it probably would be now), and people would usually join me, though not everyone would drink. That being said, a mini-fridge of booze _per-employee_ is pretty unusual.

Post by jwmoz » Mon, Dec 07, 2020, 4:26 AM UTC

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okareaman wrote: post #52

I am a recovering nitrous oxide addict who once set himself on fire, so I understand the terrible predicament he found himself in. Many people do nitrous recreationally as a party drug, but there's a reason they call it 'hippie crack.' Some become obsessed with it

The documentary of Steve-O's (from Jackass fame) descent into madness via nitrous oxide and other drugs was terrifying. The way he would convulse and then have conversations with his Mom and talk to the voices in his head? The whole thing left me speechless. Steve-O Demise & Rise [MTV Special]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1ulzP2XUOg

Post by selestify » Mon, Dec 07, 2020, 4:35 AM UTC

okareaman wrote: post #117

TedShiller wrote: post #106

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I think one "advantage" could be that it's an invisible drug. People don't know that you're doing it, unless of course you have neurological or organ damage, but even then it could be explained away.

You start getting incoherent after heavy use, even when not currently using. People who know you notice. Jewel said she left an event early because she was upset to see Tony was acting that way. It takes 4-6 days to recover from a heavy run, including getting feeling back in your nerve endings. Taking B vitamins help.

Post by twblalock » Mon, Dec 07, 2020, 4:37 AM UTC

tempsy wrote: post #149

CydeWeys wrote: post #127

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You buy shoes through amazon.com now (with fulfillment by Zappos). That's where all the development has gone. I get the feeling zappos.com is a dead end.

Yeah that makes sense, but then my question is why did Hsieh stay as CEO for that long in what was basically a dead end company within Amazon? It doesn’t seem like that is something someone like Hsieh would ever want to do, and yet he stayed there for a decade post acquisition.

Post by Scoundreller » Mon, Dec 07, 2020, 4:46 AM UTC

selestify wrote: post #155

okareaman wrote: post #117

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You start getting incoherent after heavy use, even when not currently using. People who know you notice. Jewel said she left an event early because she was upset to see Tony was acting that way. It takes 4-6 days to recover from a heavy run, including getting feeling back in your nerve endings. Taking B vitamins help.

How much is a "heavy run"? Another commenter mentioned buying many cases.