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72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
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Re: 72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
#592Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Universally? Perhaps in the US? But IoT devices are sold worldwide. Ugh, the situation is even worst in countries with censorship laws. For example, in my country, all ISP are required to intercept all DNS requests and filter all requests to any blocked domains found in the government block list. At least they're transparent about which sites are blocked though (the list is publicly available to query or download),…
Curious which country is this? A public list of censored sites seems an odd thing to exist
India definitely does this. It is usually porn and piracy etc related
Re: 72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
#593I’m responsible for a bunch of IoT hardware, and every firmware spec I write includes a note on not using the DNS servers provided via DHCP. While sure there are companies explicitly doing this to avoid filtering, at least in my case it’s because a significant proportion of DHCP servers are configured to send DNS to your ISP, and ISP provided DNS is almost universally terrible. They’ll ignore TTLs, rewrite NXDOMAIN r…
> and ISP provided DNS is almost universally terrible. They’ll ignore TTLs, rewrite NXDOMAIN responses into the IP address of their ad-laced web search, and occasionally just highjack every single query to send you to a page saying you’re approaching your bandwidth quota Universally? Perhaps in the US? But IoT devices are sold worldwide. While I do run my own recursive resolver I checked my ISP's and they're behaving…
> Universally? Perhaps in the US? But IoT devices are sold worldwide.
The ISP provided DNS in South Korea is absolutely terrible too. Setting 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8 always serves far better experience than the ISP's.
Re: 72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
#594I’m responsible for a bunch of IoT hardware, and every firmware spec I write includes a note on not using the DNS servers provided via DHCP. While sure there are companies explicitly doing this to avoid filtering, at least in my case it’s because a significant proportion of DHCP servers are configured to send DNS to your ISP, and ISP provided DNS is almost universally terrible. They’ll ignore TTLs, rewrite NXDOMAIN r…
> and ISP provided DNS is almost universally terrible. They’ll ignore TTLs, rewrite NXDOMAIN responses into the IP address of their ad-laced web search, and occasionally just highjack every single query to send you to a page saying you’re approaching your bandwidth quota Universally? Perhaps in the US? But IoT devices are sold worldwide. While I do run my own recursive resolver I checked my ISP's and they're behaving…
As a counter-point, my UK ISP uses Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 last I checked.
Re: 72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
#595Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Universally? Perhaps in the US? But IoT devices are sold worldwide. Ugh, the situation is even worst in countries with censorship laws. For example, in my country, all ISP are required to intercept all DNS requests and filter all requests to any blocked domains found in the government block list. At least they're transparent about which sites are blocked though (the list is publicly available to query or download),…
Curious which country is this? A public list of censored sites seems an odd thing to exist
Indonesia. The official block list is available here: https://trustpositif.kominfo.go.id/
Re: 72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
#596Earlier quoted context omitted.
So disable/don't use it? It doesn't even actively listen for "ok google", it only listens if you hit the assistant key. If you ever have an android phone in your home, it's exactly the same thing (except the phone actively listens by default). Edit: Also, for fucks sake, context. The person I'm replying to is talking about getting his parents a SmartTV (way worse privacy-wise than Google), for the convenience factor.
And then they forget to update it or nvidia discontinues it and someone hacks in to it and your room mic gets posted on one of those open ip camera lists. This is not some tin foil hat idea. You can go on reddit and browse peoples personal spaces being broadcast for everyone to see.
… how does a mic that is embedded in a remote control turn into a camera?
Re: 72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
#597Routers just need to treat packets to 8.8.8.8 as "send this to the DNS server".
Seriously. IPv4=8.8.8.8 means "this goes to the DNS server". The DNS server helps you find all the other IP addresses you need, which is why this one is special. One DNAT rule, one SNAT rule, and you're done.
IMO IP should have had this feature from day one.
Re: 72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
#598Earlier quoted context omitted.
I own several smart TVs but use none of the smart functionality. They don’t even have internet. TV makers are horrible software developers, for the same reasons that mobile manufacturers were horrible mobile OS developers until Android came along. We have similar solutions for televisions in the form of Apple TV and Chromecast. I honestly feel I’m wasting my money when I’m buying a smart TV these days, but you just n…
I'm surprised to say but the latest Samsung interface and remote is quite good. Good enough I feel no need to put an Apple TV on it (which happens to have an awful remote).
> the latest Samsung interface and remote is quite good
... at spying on you
Re: 72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
#599This isn't difficult: TVs should not be "smart". TVs should be incredibly dumb. They should be screens for displaying stuff. That's it. Nothing else. No network connection of any kind, no apps, no software beyond that necessary to do basic setup of how that screen works: brightness, input selection, etc.
Disagree. My 75 yo parents still have a dumb tv. They have different remotes for cable, sound, blue ray player ( some smart apps), fire tv, and apple tv. Their life is not easier because of this, they don't watch what they want when they want because it takes minutes to get to a different source. I know what I'm getting them for Christmas
> I know what I'm getting them for Christmas
A grandchild who cares about oligopolistic abuse?
Because they don't have one of those.
Re: 72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
#600Earlier quoted context omitted.
You could get a smart TV and just not connect it to the internet. If you were really paranoid, you could disconnect/snip the wifi antenna. At least my TV still allow firmware updates via USB, so you may not lose that. Not that it'd matter much if you weren't using any smart features, but they do still provide things like improving compatibility with devices (recently HDMI 2.1). I have a bigger issue with VR headsets.…
> just not connect it to the internet Wait until they have TVs that connect to cellular which doesn't need your consent
5G! 5G! 5G! 5G! 5G! 5G!
Yeah I am so tired of hearing about 5G. Because that's exactly what it will be.