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Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by leetcrew »

drewg123 wrote: post #50
enlyth wrote: post #21

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It's quite frustrating that this is becoming the norm, whether it be the 3XXX Nvidia cards, Playstation 5s, Ryzen CPUs, why is it that no hardware company can keep up with demand these days?

What ever happened to the laws of supply and demand? If the demand is high, and the supply is limited, they should be raising their prices. Stockx says an xbox series X is worth $750, a PS5 is worth $950, and a Ryzen 5900X worth $800. Why can't vendors just raise their prices, so I can buy from a retail outlet I trust, rather than a scalper.

honestly I wonder the same thing, but I think the average consumer views this as something like "first-party scalping". large price movements (in either direction) immediately after release make people dislike the brand.

still doesn't make sense to me. these are computer parts, not insulin; set the price as high as is necessary to keep units in stock.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by gameswithgo »

91edec wrote: post #65
Drew_ wrote: post #57

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Would Nvidia's shortages also fall in this bucket?

Nvidia used samsung. Rumor has it that their shortage is because they sold their cards directly to cryptominers.

That is stuff angry gamer kids make up to find a reason to be mad. The reality is that manufacturing is generally slowed due to covid, and demand is generally high due to covid, and nobody can keep up.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by gameswithgo »

drewg123 wrote: post #50
enlyth wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's quite frustrating that this is becoming the norm, whether it be the 3XXX Nvidia cards, Playstation 5s, Ryzen CPUs, why is it that no hardware company can keep up with demand these days?

What ever happened to the laws of supply and demand? If the demand is high, and the supply is limited, they should be raising their prices. Stockx says an xbox series X is worth $750, a PS5 is worth $950, and a Ryzen 5900X worth $800. Why can't vendors just raise their prices, so I can buy from a retail outlet I trust, rather than a scalper.

I know some of them worry about angering customers by "price gouging", but customers get mad when they can't get the product too. Might as well make money on the anger.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by TulliusCicero »

eloff wrote: post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

Same deal with new GPU's from AMD and nVidia.

Yes, it's really nice that there's more mipmaps than ever before, but that doesn't do me much good if I can't actually buy your thing.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by Retric »

KptMarchewa wrote: post #46
dijit wrote: post #31

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I think we underestimate (or, overestimate) low end GPUs. a geforce 1030 will be adequately taxed on desktop loads: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gt-1030.c2954 Can get them for 40eur, they barely do 1080p.

You can't connect 2+ 4k/60fps monitors to it, which is the only thing I expect from non-gaming GPU, besides being silent.

Dual 4k/60fps is still very niche at this point. Last I checked the cheapest option is to just get 2 x 15$ graphics cards. The next low end graphics card refresh is expected in Q1 which should solve this for you.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by alibert »

Drew_ wrote: post #57
KptMarchewa wrote: post #41

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>I hope they ramp up production Every high-performance CPU released lately uses TSMC for manufacturing, which can't keep up with demand. See Playstation 5/Xbox shortages, Ryzen and Radeon shortages. I think only Apple was able to secure enough manufacturing.

Would Nvidia's shortages also fall in this bucket?

We know more about Nvidia shortage on 3000 series: Samsung wafer, substrates and components (maybe the GDDR6X memory chip which only Micron can make).

[1] https://www.techpowerup.com/275530/nvidia-rtx-30-series-shor...

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by awiesenhofer »

91edec wrote: post #65
Drew_ wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would Nvidia's shortages also fall in this bucket?

Nvidia used samsung. Rumor has it that their shortage is because they sold their cards directly to cryptominers.

Is mining on GPUs still something people do? Or can be done anywhere near profitable? I got the impression with ASICs that game was up.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by Ingon »

snazz wrote: post #9
Ingon wrote: post #6

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My biggest gripe with amd is that I need to think about gfx card when buying one. I’d love to have a simple vega 8 in all of their cpus.

I have a hard time believing that most purchasers of high-end consumer CPUs wouldn't use a discrete GPU. What's the use-case you're envisioning where an integrated GPU is a good use of die space?

I have a few primary use cases in mind:

- developer machine (I don't game)

- server in the basement

- htpc, no gaming (maybe some retro)

In all of these (and probably more), a discrete GPU feels like a detriment. More space, more heat, more drivers, more hassle, more money.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by oblio »

bcrosby95 wrote: post #80
enlyth wrote: post #21

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It's quite frustrating that this is becoming the norm, whether it be the 3XXX Nvidia cards, Playstation 5s, Ryzen CPUs, why is it that no hardware company can keep up with demand these days?

This happened with the Nvidia 2xxx cards too. I think it's less that they can't keep up with demand, and more that they're "launching" earlier in the production process. In the past they would have just launched later.

It's also a marketing ploy. It sounds much, much better when all you keep hearing is "out of stock", "sold out". It creates "fear of missing out" (FOMO). You know, like in real life when you see a long queue in front of a shop.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by nicoburns »

war1025 wrote: post #36
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #28

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>Ryzen 5 IdeaPad S540 Too bad that, like most Ryzen laptops, it only has a HDMI 1.4 port just like every Lidl/Aldi discount bin laptop from 2012, so you can't get 60Hz at 4K on your external monitor, which is laughable for a device that costs almost a thousand bucks. HDMI 2.0 devices have been on the market since like 2016 already. I don't know why all OEMs gimp the Ryzen variants like this. It's either they have slo…

> so you can't get 60Hz at 4K on your external monitor Maybe my eyes just aren't that good, but I really can't see why I would need 4k over standard HD, which gives me plenty of screen real estate and a perfectly fine picture.

It's all about text rendering fidelity for me. I can fit a lot more code on my 4k screen.
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