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AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by fastest963 »

wlesieutre wrote: post #58
fastest963 wrote: post #17

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Unfortunately, even if there was, they wouldn't have Thunderbolt so it would limit the external display options. Hopefully when USB4 starts rolling out it'll be a different story.

What's the benefit of Thunderbolt displays? I think it's far more common to just do DisplayPort on USB-C alternate mode, or for slightly more specialized screens, the USB-C ones with power delivery. Thunderbolt screens are really unusual in my experience. It's an understandable restriction if you already bought a Thunderbolt screen and need a new computer that's compatible with it, but requiring Thunderbolt case I mi…

I have a dock with two 4k 60hz DisplayPort monitors that runs off TB3. Afaik that's not possible over USB.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by alanfranz »

leetcrew wrote: post #63
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #28

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>Ryzen 5 IdeaPad S540 Too bad that, like most Ryzen laptops, it only has a HDMI 1.4 port just like every Lidl/Aldi discount bin laptop from 2012, so you can't get 60Hz at 4K on your external monitor, which is laughable for a device that costs almost a thousand bucks. HDMI 2.0 devices have been on the market since like 2016 already. I don't know why all OEMs gimp the Ryzen variants like this. It's either they have slo…

> One theory I heard is Intel requires them to sell a certain number of their chips on premium machines if they want to stay on their nice partners list and get their chips at good prices so they just gimp the Ryzen ones to force your hand to buy Intel if you want no other compromises other than an outdated CPU. I wouldn't put this past intel, but I doubt it's even necessary. most people that buy laptops don't know t…

> One theory I heard is Intel requires them to sell a certain number of their chips on premium machines if they want to stay on their nice partners list

I think this has happened in the past already (https://www.theverge.com/2014/6/12/5803442/intel-nearly-1-an...).

If they're really doing it again... good luck.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by eddieoz »

wfleming wrote: post #42
katsura wrote: post #14

There are still no XPS level laptops available with Ryzen CPUs, which makes me so sad. I'd like to upgrade my work machine but I'd prefer not to buy Intel at this time.

Lenovo is selling several of the new T series Thinkpads with Ryzen chips. IHMO something like the T14s is pretty comparable to an XPS, but I don't know what your evaluation criteria are, and I have a personal preference for Thinkpads, so I'm biased.

Thanks for the hint. I will take a look about it.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by schmorptron »

dhruvdh wrote: post #16
Ingon wrote: post #6

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My biggest gripe with amd is that I need to think about gfx card when buying one. I’d love to have a simple vega 8 in all of their cpus.

While I agree with your sentiment adding a simple Vega 8 to their CPUs is a lot more work and expense than you'd think. They have a thing going where they manufacture Zen core chiplets, and that put together X number of chiplets to make a processor. This is very attractive in terms of cost. As best I know they don't have a GPU chiplet, and so they can't just add one to a CPU. All their processors containing both CPU…

I wonder if there's a way for motherboard manufacturers to add an integrated GPU to the boards today. I think I remember seeing some nvidia chip on a really old motherboard once, but maybe that was before a lot of the PCIE stuff was moved directly into the CPU die?

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by alanfranz »

war1025 wrote: post #36
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #28

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>Ryzen 5 IdeaPad S540 Too bad that, like most Ryzen laptops, it only has a HDMI 1.4 port just like every Lidl/Aldi discount bin laptop from 2012, so you can't get 60Hz at 4K on your external monitor, which is laughable for a device that costs almost a thousand bucks. HDMI 2.0 devices have been on the market since like 2016 already. I don't know why all OEMs gimp the Ryzen variants like this. It's either they have slo…

> so you can't get 60Hz at 4K on your external monitor Maybe my eyes just aren't that good, but I really can't see why I would need 4k over standard HD, which gives me plenty of screen real estate and a perfectly fine picture.

Maybe your monitor isn't good enough. If you've got a 32" inch monitor, FullHD is pixelated. I've got a 43" monitor, it's 4K and it couldn't work at FullHD resolution.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by toyg »

leetcrew wrote: post #63
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Ryzen 5 IdeaPad S540 Too bad that, like most Ryzen laptops, it only has a HDMI 1.4 port just like every Lidl/Aldi discount bin laptop from 2012, so you can't get 60Hz at 4K on your external monitor, which is laughable for a device that costs almost a thousand bucks. HDMI 2.0 devices have been on the market since like 2016 already. I don't know why all OEMs gimp the Ryzen variants like this. It's either they have slo…

> One theory I heard is Intel requires them to sell a certain number of their chips on premium machines if they want to stay on their nice partners list and get their chips at good prices so they just gimp the Ryzen ones to force your hand to buy Intel if you want no other compromises other than an outdated CPU. I wouldn't put this past intel, but I doubt it's even necessary. most people that buy laptops don't know t…

Some of that bad rep is earned. My ex-wife got a Lenovo with a cheap amd a few years ago and it was the worst buy of her life.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by qz2 »

eloff wrote: post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

Yeah was going to buy a 5900X and an NVidia 3070. Can't get either so spent the cash I had lying around on an M1 Mac Mini to play with.

Edit: I’m still going to buy the first two items at some point. But not yet.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by Renaud »

91edec wrote: post #65
Drew_ wrote: post #57

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Would Nvidia's shortages also fall in this bucket?

Nvidia used samsung. Rumor has it that their shortage is because they sold their cards directly to cryptominers.

I believe this was debunked. The sales to cryptominers only represents a few percents of the total.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by bcrosby95 »

enlyth wrote: post #21
eloff wrote: post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

It's quite frustrating that this is becoming the norm, whether it be the 3XXX Nvidia cards, Playstation 5s, Ryzen CPUs, why is it that no hardware company can keep up with demand these days?

This happened with the Nvidia 2xxx cards too.

I think it's less that they can't keep up with demand, and more that they're "launching" earlier in the production process.

In the past they would have just launched later.

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