E Foundation – deGoogled unGoogled smartphone OS and online services

Post by Throwaway1771 » Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 9:16 AM UTC

ThenAsNow wrote: post #44

ignoramous wrote: post #33

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https://calyxos.org/ is another promising Android fork similar in ideals to https://grapheneos.org/

Thanks for posting this. I spent some time looking at how "de-Googled" GrapheneOS is. If you define "de-Googled" as meaning the phone makes no connections to Google servers that you do not explicitly acknowledge/permit, then GrapheneOS is still far from "de-Googled". Just to give one example, SUPL. There are also plenty of unGoogled-Chromium patches GrapheneOS doesn't apply. I'm not saying GrapheneOS isn't way better…

Post by javierseballos » Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 2:00 PM UTC

Vinnl wrote: post #102

IceWreck wrote: post #87

Doesn't /e/ just take Lineage OS, install microg on top of it add their crappy launcher, and then take $$$ as donations. If anyone deserves donations its Lineage or MicroG. Donate upstream instead of this.

They do fund the MicroG developer: https://web.archive.org/web/20200817144004/https://e.foundat... See also https://community.e.foundation/t/microg-what-you-need-to-kno... I think part of their approach is also to sell refurbished phones (or, in partnership with Fairphone, new ones) with /e/ preinstalled, lowering the barrier to entry. There might be more, but I'm not too familiar with them.

Post by LarissaH1 » Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 10:53 PM UTC

joemazerino wrote: post #111

phh wrote: post #30

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I don't think the graveyard of Android privacy forks is that big? All I can think of is CopperheadOS which died because it was company-backed. You could argue CyanogenMod died, though really it's still well alive in LineageOS. (and CyanogenMod wasn't really privacy-focused) I have a very high respect for all the work that's been done on the various GNU/Linux mobile distributions, but it's still so far away from Andro…

> All I can think of is CopperheadOS which died because it was company-backed CopperheadOS did not die. https://copperhead.co/android /e/ mostly uses LineageOS code without providing attribution. They have a fair fight ahead of them and the Android FLOSS community benefits from this internal competition.

Post by GTP » Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 9:48 PM UTC

joecool1029 wrote: post #80

GTP wrote: post #16

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What about LineageOS + MicroG? It seems sustainable to me

LineageOS does not support MicroG officially, you will not receive support from them so I don't know what your benchmark for sustainability is. The officially stated reason (I'm paraphrasing) was because it allows for fudging the signatures of apps and services on the OS, and this breaks the security model.