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Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by Technophile1991 »

ivraatiems wrote: post #41

Well, Slack, it was nice knowing you. I wonder who Discord will get bought up by when it replaces Slack after a year or two of Salesforce mismanagement? It's so sad that this is the cycle for software now. Start small, get big fast, get sold, get ruined. I realize I am presupposing Salesforce will ruin Slack - but it's hard to see how they won't , unless they take the approach Microsoft took with Github and keep it a…

I'd just like to point out quip used to have a free tier now that's gone. They now push Salesforce anywhere. Also, marketing cloud is a mess from its former exact target. They will for sure ruin slack.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by delfinom »

sjg007 wrote: post #372

Anyone read the press release? Salesforce wants to use Slack as an input device driver. Imagine slacking with your customers, colleagues etc... need to create a DB entry? Slack command. Need to schedule some follow up, slack command. Need to track a bunch of tasks? Slack-Force integrations. I see an AI bot here to help get that data into Salesforce. To quote: "Together, Salesforce and Slack will shape the future of e…

Ah yes, people already waste fucking hours putting in the most ridiculous menial data into the CRM because management forces them to because Salesforce convinced them it would somehow help their business to know what color the customer's underwear was.

Now instead they can get more efficient at wasting time by using both slack and crm at the same time!

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by wp381640 »

easton wrote: post #14

I'm somewhat surprised that Amazon didn't end up acquiring Slack, considering that the major thing they are missing compared to Microsoft is productivity tools. If they had purchased Dropbox and Slack they could've gotten a foothold rather quickly and slowed down one of Microsoft's major selling points (you already use Office, why not Azure?). Discord could be another interesting company in the chat space, as I'm sur…

They'd have to acquire so much more - it's AD, Office and Exchange that keep Microsoft embedded in the enterprise.

Hosted AD on Azure and Office 365 are _so good_ that nobody is coming close, not even Google.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by pjsnow »

rsj_hn wrote: post #430
colinmhayes wrote: post #68

I can't possibly see this going well for salesforce. Buying slack for 70x revenue is insane. Their entire market is going to be eaten by teams and google chat, if it hasn't already. Microsoft has such a gigantic advantage when it comes to enterprise productivity software because everyone is already using office. And those that aren't are on g-suite. Slack's recent guidance was horrible too.

> Microsoft has such a gigantic advantage when it comes to enterprise productivity software Is that really true? I'm biased since I'm on the dev side, but everyone I know is using macbook pros, with very rare stragglers using windows or linux, and they use web clients for most stuff (e.g. gsuite, etc) rather than thick clients. I suspect with the push to working from home this will only accelerate. This is a shame, s…

The overwhelming majority of consumers of enterprise software aren't devs, so you're correct to speak to your bias.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by colinmhayes »

dleslie wrote: post #479
colinmhayes wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, google has a competitor called chat. As other comments have said it doesn't really stack up with teams/slack, but the video system is pretty good. It works well enough, an has seen consistent improvements over the year. Doubt any company would specifically choose google chat, but I know that many that already have deals for g-suite are using it. The thing is pretty much every company has a contract for office or…

The video is good? Is that a joke?! I have weekly Beaver meetings with my daughter using google chat and _every time_ nearly all the feeds are frozen. Whereas my wife uses Zoom all day to talk to patients, with nary a hitch. Google chat video is the worst I've ever used.

I've been on google meets all day since march and have never froze. Plenty of huge conference calls, screen sharing. Works great for me. Missing some features of zoom, but the video/audio quality is just as good in my experience.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by Everhusk »

callahad wrote: post #253
emmanueloga_ wrote: post #121

Whatever happened to matrix.org/vector/riot.im/element.io? (side note: most confusing branding ever :-/). Element seemed to be picking up some momentum a few months back. There was recent news that they acquired gitter too [1]. These days I only hear about slack exodus and discord this and discord that, though. If I get it right, from all the group messengers that appeared around 6 years ago, the only one with an ope…

I joined Element about a month ago (we're hiring! https://element.io/careers ) and now that I'm on the inside, I'm genuinely optimistic about our trajectory. We're not taking over the world overnight, but we are steadily growing. From a business perspective, data sovereignty and end-to-end encryption seem to be really potent differentiators for certain market segments, especially government. To wit, the French govern…

We're also contributing and building https://social.network on Matrix protocol (Conduit) :)

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by colinmhayes »

m3kw9 wrote: post #390
colinmhayes wrote: post #68

I can't possibly see this going well for salesforce. Buying slack for 70x revenue is insane. Their entire market is going to be eaten by teams and google chat, if it hasn't already. Microsoft has such a gigantic advantage when it comes to enterprise productivity software because everyone is already using office. And those that aren't are on g-suite. Slack's recent guidance was horrible too.

Is not insane if you factor growth after the merger. Simple as that

The point is there's nowhere for slack to grow. Just about every organization gets comparable but slightly worse chat apps for free with their google or Microsoft subscription. Convincing executives to buy slack when they've got a free app from a trusted company that they're already paying for support will be very tough.

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Post by bullfightonmars »

rsj_hn wrote: post #430
colinmhayes wrote: post #68

I can't possibly see this going well for salesforce. Buying slack for 70x revenue is insane. Their entire market is going to be eaten by teams and google chat, if it hasn't already. Microsoft has such a gigantic advantage when it comes to enterprise productivity software because everyone is already using office. And those that aren't are on g-suite. Slack's recent guidance was horrible too.

> Microsoft has such a gigantic advantage when it comes to enterprise productivity software Is that really true? I'm biased since I'm on the dev side, but everyone I know is using macbook pros, with very rare stragglers using windows or linux, and they use web clients for most stuff (e.g. gsuite, etc) rather than thick clients. I suspect with the push to working from home this will only accelerate. This is a shame, s…

My impression is that many if not most mid size and up orgs pay for the MS Suite at the company level. With 365 you can get the whole suite from email to docs, one drive, and teams.

Teams comes free with the suite. My company moved from webex + adhoc solutions to teams and it has worked well, at least for video chat.

MS office apps have decent support for Apple these days

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by colinmhayes »

shoulderfake wrote: post #429
colinmhayes wrote: post #68

I can't possibly see this going well for salesforce. Buying slack for 70x revenue is insane. Their entire market is going to be eaten by teams and google chat, if it hasn't already. Microsoft has such a gigantic advantage when it comes to enterprise productivity software because everyone is already using office. And those that aren't are on g-suite. Slack's recent guidance was horrible too.

Ive never used anything but slack at work and that's with 4 different organizations. Microsoft teams was tried and ppl just kept using slack regardless.

I'm not saying orgs will switch away from slack. It's a great app. I'm saying orgs that are not currently using slack will not want to pay to switch when they've got a free IM app that works fine. For slack to be worth this valuation they need about 10x as much revenue. I don't see how they could possibly accomplish that when everyone has already picked an app at this point.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by spicyramen »

wp381640 wrote: post #483
easton wrote: post #14

I'm somewhat surprised that Amazon didn't end up acquiring Slack, considering that the major thing they are missing compared to Microsoft is productivity tools. If they had purchased Dropbox and Slack they could've gotten a foothold rather quickly and slowed down one of Microsoft's major selling points (you already use Office, why not Azure?). Discord could be another interesting company in the chat space, as I'm sur…

They'd have to acquire so much more - it's AD, Office and Exchange that keep Microsoft embedded in the enterprise. Hosted AD on Azure and Office 365 are _so good_ that nobody is coming close, not even Google.

You nailed it, Google product managers, specially in Cloud lack the Enterprise expertise. They need to get that a company with IT staff already went through updating NT to Windows 2000 and then 2008 and deploying Linux and Active Directory and Exchange 5.5, 2k..etc...many MS products which were de facto for any large Company, if you can't integrate with it you will never have a solid footstep into the Enterprise world, yeah they may use BigQuery and that's it.
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