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Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by colinmhayes »

stingraycharles wrote: post #114
colinmhayes wrote: post #68

I can't possibly see this going well for salesforce. Buying slack for 70x revenue is insane. Their entire market is going to be eaten by teams and google chat, if it hasn't already. Microsoft has such a gigantic advantage when it comes to enterprise productivity software because everyone is already using office. And those that aren't are on g-suite. Slack's recent guidance was horrible too.

Honest question: what is Google chat? I only know Hangouts, I did not know they had a Slack/Teams app as well? Or is this the very old app that was integrated into Gmail back in the day?

Yea, google has a competitor called chat. As other comments have said it doesn't really stack up with teams/slack, but the video system is pretty good. It works well enough, an has seen consistent improvements over the year. Doubt any company would specifically choose google chat, but I know that many that already have deals for g-suite are using it. The thing is pretty much every company has a contract for office or google chat these days. Hard to imagine paying for slack when you've already got these free apps available.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by steveklabnik »

xxpor wrote: post #87
Spartan-S63 wrote: post #35

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It's a major opportunity for them, for sure. They are still missing some features I find critical, but they really have things figured out with integrated voice/video communications in the app. The one feature I wish they'd clone from Slack are threaded replies. I know they're rolling out a new way to reply, but it still makes the chat flow messy. I really enjoyed the way Slack allows for breakout threads/replies to…

Oh my god the absolute worst thing about slack are threads. Can we please not bring them to anything else? how do they provide any value whatsoever other than making it hard to realize someone responded to you? Signed, Someone who used IRC for decades

Discord threads are much closer to IRC than slack threads.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by c0nducktr »

denimnerd42 wrote: post #51
emidln wrote: post #13

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Mattermost too. Slack competitors are going to benefit from companies not wanting to touch Salesforce with a 10 foot pole.

My company uses mattermost for over 100k employees.

Just curious - are you self-hosting, or using their SaaS product?

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by colinmhayes »

blackrock wrote: post #131
colinmhayes wrote: post #68

I can't possibly see this going well for salesforce. Buying slack for 70x revenue is insane. Their entire market is going to be eaten by teams and google chat, if it hasn't already. Microsoft has such a gigantic advantage when it comes to enterprise productivity software because everyone is already using office. And those that aren't are on g-suite. Slack's recent guidance was horrible too.

Teams suck. Google Chat? What’s that? I’ll stick with Slack.

I don't disagree, but unless you're at a startup you probably don't get to choose. It's some executive choosing, and saying we saved a boatload by moving to the app that's included with our productivity suite is enticing.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by steveklabnik »

offtop5 wrote: post #22
jeffbee wrote: post #12

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Because "slack" is so business-like?

Look at the use cases. Discord is very much known for people talking about video games , not much else. Slack started as an internal business tool and it remains so.

There's a bunch of open source projects using it now as well. I have two separate family Discord servers. Quite a few social ones that aren't specifically gaming focused too.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

CharlesW wrote: post #92
tonyedgecombe wrote: post #57

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The general trend seems to be winner takes all single suppliers in each market segment. They have no direct competition so eventually become a tax on us all.

> They have no direct competition… I don't understand this sentiment at all. Slack is a nicely-done, enterprise-y chat app with a lot of users, most of who liked the idea of not paying for anything. There are many competitors, including several open source options.

Right now but how many competitors does Facebook have or Google. Each operates in its own narrow niche and dominates it. Chat apps will go the same way thanks to the network effects.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by [deleted] »

na85 wrote: post #141
emmanueloga_ wrote: post #121

Whatever happened to matrix.org/vector/riot.im/element.io? (side note: most confusing branding ever :-/). Element seemed to be picking up some momentum a few months back. There was recent news that they acquired gitter too [1]. These days I only hear about slack exodus and discord this and discord that, though. If I get it right, from all the group messengers that appeared around 6 years ago, the only one with an ope…

I would love to see IRC make a comeback but the fact is IRC on mobile is a pain in the ass. Users want persistence and IRC is designed for the opposite.

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Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by benglish11 »

xxpor wrote: post #87
Spartan-S63 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a major opportunity for them, for sure. They are still missing some features I find critical, but they really have things figured out with integrated voice/video communications in the app. The one feature I wish they'd clone from Slack are threaded replies. I know they're rolling out a new way to reply, but it still makes the chat flow messy. I really enjoyed the way Slack allows for breakout threads/replies to…

Oh my god the absolute worst thing about slack are threads. Can we please not bring them to anything else? how do they provide any value whatsoever other than making it hard to realize someone responded to you? Signed, Someone who used IRC for decades

I used to think the same thing regarding threads and I think slack's UI for them is bad (pushing them to a side window and squishing the main chat) but I have found them useful a few times recently. Often times a channel will have several different topics going on and the ability to push a conversation into a thread has been useful to avoid cross talk.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by nottorp »

xxpor wrote: post #87
Spartan-S63 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a major opportunity for them, for sure. They are still missing some features I find critical, but they really have things figured out with integrated voice/video communications in the app. The one feature I wish they'd clone from Slack are threaded replies. I know they're rolling out a new way to reply, but it still makes the chat flow messy. I really enjoyed the way Slack allows for breakout threads/replies to…

Oh my god the absolute worst thing about slack are threads. Can we please not bring them to anything else? how do they provide any value whatsoever other than making it hard to realize someone responded to you? Signed, Someone who used IRC for decades

Slack threads are unusable. I don't know about you, but I never ever notice them when someone makes the mistake of starting a new one.
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