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I Am Not Fat

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Re: I Am Not Fat

#121
I - like many other - gained some weight during lockdown last winter. Now round 2 of lockdown I figured something needed to be done, So I have invested in a walkingpad (treadmill for walking speed - it folds up and tugs under the bed when I am not using it.) I have been walking for 2 hours WHILE WORKING FROM HOME now and its perfect ! - loosing around 1 kg/week while eating pretty normal (though I am trying to only have 1 big meal a day and just snack the rest of the time). The walking is not hard and I can walk 10km/day without really thinking about it, because time flies by while working. When work time is over I have all my time free and don't need to spend time on excersise. I would highly recommend this. Walking is a low effort thing that burn more calories than you would think. Its also good on general well being to not sit down all the time.

Re: I Am Not Fat

#123

If your aim is to lose body fat, than that's a terrible diet. If you want to lose body fat effectively, why not copy the diet of bodybuilders that get lean for a living!?

While I personally agree with approach to ask to those successful in order to establish a strategy to tackle a problem, there are a few crucial factors about professional bodybuilders: - they dope themselves to death (in some cases, literally) - they, in general, spend lots of time in the gym, although this is not a requirement to get fit in general - they are gifted in genetic terms, which makes their practices inco…

While many bodybuilders do take drugs, you don't need to take such things to get lean. Having said that, gaining muscle beyond a certain point naturally is physically impossible, although staying within a health 10% - 15% body fat range is simple with a reasonable diet.

I would argue that the idea of being genetically gifted is largely a myth, as anyone that appears gifted is most likely taking performance enhancing drugs.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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I know two people who had surgical intervention. It was a way out that they could put money into and make the problem go away. Both are fucking miserable and it ruined their lives. But no one tells those stories.

Care to elaborate ? Why did it ruin their lives ?

Across two people: Hair loss, hernias and one obstructed bowel.

Re: I Am Not Fat

#125

If your aim is to lose body fat, than that's a terrible diet. If you want to lose body fat effectively, why not copy the diet of bodybuilders that get lean for a living!?

It's a great diet for losing fat (it's just going to be no fun) Suggesting that an average person tries the extreme diet of a body builder of putting on excess fat and then trying to "cut" it is really bad advice.

I'm not suggesting that anyone follow a bulking diet, but following a cutting diet would work and isn't extreme.

For example a diet of 10-30% carbs, 40-50% protein, 30-40% fat, with a 400Kcal deficit isn't extreme by any measure! That kind of die, avoiding alcohol and sugar, seems pretty reasonable?

Re: I Am Not Fat

#126

If he sticks with it, it's going to work. All starch diets bring people to healthy weights. I've been doing (mostly) ketosis for years and I still know his all potato diet can work for weight loss. It's just going to be a very… tasteless… few weeks/months. Your poop is going to be unpleasant too. It's always interesting to me that people can succeed on extreme diets like this rather than adjust their lifestyles to wh…

> It's always interesting to me that people can succeed on extreme diets like this rather than adjust their lifestyles to whole food home cooked healthy eating. Like almost no one can tolerate ketosis but they can do extreme diets like day+ fasting or fad diets. They don't actually succeed. They succeed for a short time, because of the motivation rush, and will post about their success; then they will lose the motiva…

100x this.

Hacker News is supposed to be a well-unformed place, no? Why does the dieting BS make its way here?

> If I’m going to do something, it’s all-in baby.

That's the problem right there. A healthy lifestyle does not work like that.

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#127
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> If it doesn’t it’s because you’re cheating. Well, that's the catch, isn't it? The meta-technique is where the problem is. "Study hard for the exam. If you can't study, that's the problem". Useless advice to the guy addicted to games. And we know one true answer for effective weight loss: pharmaceuticals. Ludicrous success rate. All of this other stuff is slow. Cheat. Life's too short to play fair.

Pharmaceuticals? I’m afraid I don’t follow. Feel free to elaborate :)

I would guess at stimulants, such as amphetamine, methamphetamine, cocaine etc. Will work to increase activity and reduce appetite. Major dose-dependent side effects in that they are bad for the heart, reduce impulse control, loss of sleep, addictive, amongst others

Re: I Am Not Fat

#128
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Oh joy another diet fad. They’re just stupid. Just eat a balanced diet with less calories and do exercise. It works. If it doesn’t it’s because you’re cheating. 231lb to 157lb here this year doing just that. 1600 calorie cap and regular exercise, mostly walking. After weight was gone, calories back up to normal and maintain the exercise. I should note that this was achieved by eating less potatoes and fruit and eatin…

To be fair, genetic variation makes this significantly harder for some. Up to a point where they need to do rather extreme things.

But overall I agree..

Re: I Am Not Fat

#129

christ.. what an awful diet. for me 13kgs dropped off in about 5 months after lifestyle changes. Stopped adding sugar to drinks (and drinking sweet drinks/ artificial or no) Fast between 8pm and 11am go for a 1 hour bike ride a few times a week. be conscious of how much food i was eating (quantity) I dont have a sweet tooth but savory food I have bad habits of eating until I'm full.

I'm kind of in the same boat. I like savory foods, although I also have a bit of a sweet tooth ( but am able to control it ).

My problem is the same though; I eat till I'm full, so I've been curtailing that by eating more proteins and really watching what kinds of food I'm eating. Still a work in progress though.

Re: I Am Not Fat

#130

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> do exercise Exercise does nothing in losing weight. (If you've seen the people doing physical labor for 10 hours a day, you know they're not necessarily thin.)

Power lifting training easily smashes just over 1k cals a day for me. If I don't lift, I'll get fat. It definitely has significant effects on metabolism, body fat % and building muscle. I imagine that most peoples 'exercise' doesn't come close to 1k calories burned though. Your physical labour people probably consume more calories than they use.

> Your physical labour people probably consume more calories than they use.

It really comes down to this at the end of the day. Assuming someone is reasonable about what they eat (not garbage), if you consume more than you expand, you're gaining weight that is mostly fat, unless you're doing some type of resistance exercise like barbells, which would result in both fat and muscle gain if, again, you don't eat trash diet.

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