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CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

delecti wrote: post #425
nailer wrote: post #387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not entirely sure what a crosswalk is. I /guess/ it's a pedestrian crossing, but I wouldn't put money on it.

Yes, crosswalks are a marked place on a road where pedestrians are supposed to cross. They often have dedicated signaling to let you know when you have the right-of-way to cross. The signaling usually looks like this [1], though typically the other fingers on the hand aren't blacked out, so it's a full hand, rather than one showing a middle finger (I couldn't quickly find a better example). https://imgur.com/gallery/…

Crosswalks are not necessarily marked. For many jurisdictions they exist at the corners of every road intersection.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by gostsamo »

Number157 wrote: post #278
gostsamo wrote: post #12

As a blind person with english as not native language, the audio captchas are pure hell. I can't imagine other visually impaired people who don't know english at all and have to deal with a lazy website which dumps them the default english audio captcha if there is audio at all.

All communication requires some agreed upon protocol. Whatever they use, people would have to understand it.

Not all implementations follow the specification. The real world is more like IOT, not compilers.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by sarathyweb »

gostsamo wrote: post #12

As a blind person with english as not native language, the audio captchas are pure hell. I can't imagine other visually impaired people who don't know english at all and have to deal with a lazy website which dumps them the default english audio captcha if there is audio at all.

As someone with almost 100% visual impairment, I'm having a hard time dealing with CAPTCHAS. I find it more difficult to slove hCAPTCHA than Google reCaptcha.

Most of the times I can easily solve Google reCaptcha. However, If I don't know the meaning of the object being displayed / any difficulties seeing it, Google won't let me switch to audio mode ( It'll display something like "This feature is currently unavailable" or "We have detected unusual traffic from your network"

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by wongarsu »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #431
Number157 wrote: post #273

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But you can answer the questions, I assume?

These are hard sometimes for me, from UK: What counts as a truck? Is a fire engine a truck, is a 4x4 (like a Landrover), a HGV (ie lorry), a box van? What counts as a bus? Is a coach a bus, a minibus? What counts as a bicycle? Is a pedal-and-pop (a pedal cycle with an engine)? The image shows part of a headset that might be on a bike, is that enough to call it a bike, might be a lightweight motorbike? Is a hovercraft…

One question that I apparently answered wrong for years as a German are the traffic lights. In English, traffic light seems to refer only to the assembly of two or three lights used to control the flow of traffic. The equivalent German word most commonly refers to the entire installation, including the pole, button (for pedestrians and visually impaired), speaker (for the visually impaired) etc.

So I selected much more than what Google expected me to select, I selected all the cables and poles as well.

I'm pretty glad that hCaptcha at least gives me an example of what it's looking for

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by [deleted] »

nojokes wrote: post #389
dayve wrote: post #247

Being an African born & bred in Nigeria, I particularly find this appalling. Captcha usually asks users to identify fire hydrants, crosswalks & other objects with design patterns that are not common here, in everyday living. There's a big question on whether these approaches work well for onboarding the next billion users to the internet, especially since the demographics are much different from existing internet use…

Fire hydrants are not at all common in European cityscape but you will learn about them from Hollywood movies or from music videos. But in the part of Europe I am from, if I did not go to the daycare in a larger city, I would not have seen any crosswalks or traffic lights. I could have easily recognized a harvester or a railroad crossing though.

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Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by Bayart »

wongarsu wrote: post #494
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #431

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are hard sometimes for me, from UK: What counts as a truck? Is a fire engine a truck, is a 4x4 (like a Landrover), a HGV (ie lorry), a box van? What counts as a bus? Is a coach a bus, a minibus? What counts as a bicycle? Is a pedal-and-pop (a pedal cycle with an engine)? The image shows part of a headset that might be on a bike, is that enough to call it a bike, might be a lightweight motorbike? Is a hovercraft…

One question that I apparently answered wrong for years as a German are the traffic lights. In English, traffic light seems to refer only to the assembly of two or three lights used to control the flow of traffic. The equivalent German word most commonly refers to the entire installation, including the pole, button (for pedestrians and visually impaired), speaker (for the visually impaired) etc. So I selected much mo…

Wait, you don't have to select the whole pole ?

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Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by WarOnPrivacy »

ape4 wrote: post #467
dayve wrote: post #247

Being an African born & bred in Nigeria, I particularly find this appalling. Captcha usually asks users to identify fire hydrants, crosswalks & other objects with design patterns that are not common here, in everyday living. There's a big question on whether these approaches work well for onboarding the next billion users to the internet, especially since the demographics are much different from existing internet use…

I'd love to try some non-American captchas ;)

I made a cross-cultural captcha https://i.imgur.com/U2ivgJl.jpg

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by downrightmike »

dayve wrote: post #247

Being an African born & bred in Nigeria, I particularly find this appalling. Captcha usually asks users to identify fire hydrants, crosswalks & other objects with design patterns that are not common here, in everyday living. There's a big question on whether these approaches work well for onboarding the next billion users to the internet, especially since the demographics are much different from existing internet use…

The USA is the home of the internet, just keep building yours up and hey, start a captcha of your own. Don't let google dominate. Edit: This is serious, if you let them take everything over, they will.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by tzot »

ChrisRR wrote: post #397
dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #385

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXBHY7uco0Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw "Really? 'erbs? You're french now?"

I remember a flame war between US-English and UK-English speakers, where one of the former said “if it weren't for us, you'd be speaking German now” and one of the latter ones said “if it weren't for the French, you'd still speak English now”.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by mimimi31 »

gostsamo wrote: post #76
notRobot wrote: post #58

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Try Buster. Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/buster-captch... Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/buster-captcha-sol...

Thanks, will check it out.

Not sure if that's still a problem, but when I tried this addon some time ago, audio captchas were quickly disabled for me because of irregular activity from my network. It might not be a good idea to use this if you rely on audio captchas and can't easily change your IP address.
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