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CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by tom_ »

canofbars wrote: post #15

Anyone with a half functioning brain can figure out which ones are the taxis. Taxis are not yellow in my country and I would have no issue picking those out. They have the very distinctive sign on the roof that no normal car has. Not even OP was confused by this, they are just complaining on the behalf of some theoretical person who might get confused.

If we don't push back early, there's the risk of ending up in a situation where every CAPTCHA is stuff like "Select images of arugula" or "Click every Dodge F150". The occasional fire hydrant CAPTCHA was already pretty close!

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by lenlorijn »

d_theorist wrote: post #38
canofbars wrote: post #15

Anyone with a half functioning brain can figure out which ones are the taxis. Taxis are not yellow in my country and I would have no issue picking those out. They have the very distinctive sign on the roof that no normal car has. Not even OP was confused by this, they are just complaining on the behalf of some theoretical person who might get confused.

I agree. I am from the UK. Taxis are not yellow. “Cross-walks” are called zebra crossings etc But come on. It’s easy to figure these things out. This is an invented problem.

Do you think your culture might be close enough to the US that your opinion is biased in a certain way?

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by notRobot »

xrisk wrote: post #30
lukestateson wrote: post #26

CAPTCHAs don't work. At least for humans. It's fairly easy to write a script with current technology even for an average "hacker" to solve them. But on the other hand it's extremely hard, nearly impossible for a person with special needs to complete them. Even for average person solving some of CAPTCHAs is a hassle. Most of the popular CAPTCHAs services are "robot-friendly" and providers don't care who solves them, t…

Oh is Google captcha etc solvable via robot?

Yes. Buster.

Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/buster-captch...

Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/buster-captcha-sol...

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by zeepzeep »

xrisk wrote: post #30
lukestateson wrote: post #26

CAPTCHAs don't work. At least for humans. It's fairly easy to write a script with current technology even for an average "hacker" to solve them. But on the other hand it's extremely hard, nearly impossible for a person with special needs to complete them. Even for average person solving some of CAPTCHAs is a hassle. Most of the popular CAPTCHAs services are "robot-friendly" and providers don't care who solves them, t…

Oh is Google captcha etc solvable via robot?

Yes, it's called Buster. It solves the speech based challange by using speech to text APIs.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by II2II »

Many of the criticism of the article focuses upon people being able to figure out Captcha's even if the aren't American, but there are a few things to consider:

* A lot of native English speakers are going to have at least some exposure to American culture. For example: they may recognize that taxi's are yellow from American television and movies. Not everyone is going to have that exposure.

* It assumes that there is nothing from their experience that contradicts the question. For example: there is a business in my area that uses yellow cars with signage. (They can do that because taxi's in my area are not yellow.)

* It places a higher barrier to people who are not familiar with the cultural reference. Sure the author figured it out, but it would take them more thought and time to figure it out than someone who is American.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by zbuf »

Captchas have gone mad. The other day a major service gave me less than 10 seconds to solve a puzzle with a mouse in a maze and some cheese, and subsequently locked out of my account.

Actually before I got locked out, I thought I would stand more chance with the alternative for the visually impaired. It jumped straight in to a fuzzy voice reading 20+ numbers at a rate of more than 1 per second. I was already behind on typing them in before it started, and I failed that too.

Its as if solving an unfamiliar problem with fuzzy images/audio (that are increasingly fuzzed beyond the absurd) wasn't mad enough. But now I'm expected to be faster than a computer as well.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by notRobot »

gostsamo wrote: post #12

As a blind person with english as not native language, the audio captchas are pure hell. I can't imagine other visually impaired people who don't know english at all and have to deal with a lazy website which dumps them the default english audio captcha if there is audio at all.

Try Buster.

Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/buster-captch...

Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/buster-captcha-sol...

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

dempseye wrote: post #31
dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same in the UK and most commonwealth countries I think

In Ireland we have zebra and pelican crossings. The general term used in the driver training literature is "pedestrian crossing." Most people would recognise the term "crosswalk" from American media, though.

unless they live in a country were American media is dubbed. Even then I'm not sure if you really recognize it, how often do I actually hear cross-walk in a movie or show?

on edit: changed here to hear.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by xncl »

xrisk wrote: post #30
lukestateson wrote: post #26

CAPTCHAs don't work. At least for humans. It's fairly easy to write a script with current technology even for an average "hacker" to solve them. But on the other hand it's extremely hard, nearly impossible for a person with special needs to complete them. Even for average person solving some of CAPTCHAs is a hassle. Most of the popular CAPTCHAs services are "robot-friendly" and providers don't care who solves them, t…

Oh is Google captcha etc solvable via robot?

yes you play the audio captcha into voice to text software and it can solve it with a good rate of success and no effort mentally on my part
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