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CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by fennecfoxen »

hadrien01 wrote: post #362
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They could just ask to decypher one of those parking signs as well: http://www.polisassist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/confus...

What the hell is that thing?! Is that normal in the US?

That is not normal.

That said, it’s not too bad. It’s long and the organization is bad but the policy is reasonableish.

There’s street cleaning one day a week (year round) 11am-1pm, and you can’t ever park then.

It’s a school zone as well; when school is in session you can park for 15 minutes in the afternoon to drop a kid off or for 1 hour to pick the kid up. When school is out you just need to avoid the street cleaning.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by cvhashim »

DarkWiiPlayer wrote: post #268
dayve wrote: post #247

Being an African born & bred in Nigeria, I particularly find this appalling. Captcha usually asks users to identify fire hydrants, crosswalks & other objects with design patterns that are not common here, in everyday living. There's a big question on whether these approaches work well for onboarding the next billion users to the internet, especially since the demographics are much different from existing internet use…

My prediction: This will lead to new users being turned away from established products from the anglosphere and develop their own alternatives. Maybe after a while the big companies will notice and adapt, which might already be too late by then, or maybe they just buy the smaller ones directly, who knows.

I think this is already happening. Hopefully local entrepreneurs in their own countries can continue to build for their countrymen before people like Zuckerberg and Bezos get their hands in the metaphorical pot, and suck all the wealth right back to the US like economic hitmen of the last century.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by alias_neo »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #115
dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #14

To add some balance, they should include "identify all the roundabouts" so that folk from the USA are equally disadvantaged.

They could just ask to decypher one of those parking signs as well: http://www.polisassist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/confus...

I'm not American, and I agree there is a lot of information there, but it seems reasonably sane if you read through it.

I don't see any obvious contradictions. You can't park 11-1 tuesday due to street cleaning. You can't stop there mon-fri 7:30-16:00 with the exception of 7:30-8 for school business (dropping the kids off). You can park mon-fri between 4 and 6, once per day, per district (to pick up your kids after school), district permits (people who live there, not sure what the 4 means) are exempt.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by nojokes »

bserge wrote: post #171
rehemiau wrote: post #82

I'm not American and I often see captchas that ask about "cars" or "trucks". And they use similar images. I sometimes don't pass through those. My question is, when I see a truck and I'm being asked to select all cars, should I select the truck or not? For me a truck is a car. Is it not one?

Google it, heh. The way I learned it, a "car" is any roofed 4+ wheeled vehicle up to van and SUV size (yeah, more Americanisms). Pickup trucks and larger are "trucks".

What if Google is the one that requires CAPTCHA? Bingit?

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by altitudinous »

Yes, the American focus of the internet is absolutely appalling. Assumptions of timezones - PST, CST and the others whatever they are. Northern hemisphere assumptions of seasons - fall, etc - in the southern hemisphere the seasons are the opposite and we don't use the word fall. Even Apple, known for its "sensitivity" to cultural matters has a big miss on this one.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by guest12333555 »

jorvi wrote: post #310
thinkharderdev wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the owner of the site is getting a free service from Google to try and prevent bots from using their site. If you don't like CAPTCHAs then your problem is with the site owner, not google.

Google's CAPTCHA is specifically engineered to gaslight you though. Often it will ask you to identify fire hydrants or bicycles, and despite selecting all of them (and it being easy to recognise them as they are fairly unique objects), it will still give you an error, and give you a new set of images to try again. If it is feeling really malevolent it will even give you a third round. Hell, it happens regularly on th…

Ok, apart of the fact hackernews just made me fill in a captcha to register this one-time account (neverthelss, cudos HN, you are still better than the rest):

I do not understand Hcaptcha hype here. Since CloudFlare switched to Hcaptcha, as a VPN user, every time I run into a site that has CloudFlare / Hcaptcha, I can forget to pass that test. No matter how many times I try, CloudFlare still shows it all the time. It is so bad, so that now every time I see now Hcaptcha shown, I just close the site without even trying anymore. PrivacyPass :) - the biggest joke I seen on privacy - they that endorse it are either naive or have some other agenda.

These "free" zero-cost captchas for site owners are now in all places where a captca is not really needed. If CloudFlare, supper-dupper DOS solution relies on captchas, or if Google super-dupper search relies on captchas to get results, that demostrated how bad these companties really are at the main thing they do, and only want more data.

Even pirate stream sites ask now for captchas. It is so easy to integrate them, why not.

captchas, followed by 2-factor authentication with phone SMSs that we are forced to accept in all main life services slowly, combined with and laws to register phone SIM cards so they really know who we are, killed the web we know - people are being identified with hight quality.

We all rant about this here. It comes same in waves in HN all the time, but what can you do?

At least, if you own or manage a site or blog do not use: CloudFlare, Google, etc - no CDNs, no shared fonts.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by ChrisRR »

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #385
C19is20 wrote: post #378

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pronounce "Herb". Correctly, this time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXBHY7uco0Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw

"Really? 'erbs? You're french now?"

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by Macha »

tpxl wrote: post #366
Macha wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It might be called a car or a pickup truck but never just a truck by someone here. While "pickup truck" is an American inherited phrase which has truck in it, they're considered trucks about as much as a catfish is considered a cat.

> they're considered trucks about as much as a catfish is considered a cat Well yes, but someone without this knowledge will get confused.

Here is not America, to clarify. I was under the impression that Americans did consider pickups, larger SUVs etc, "trucks"

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by ben_w »

mkl wrote: post #106
ChrisRR wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a captcha for fire hydrants which we don't have in the UK either

Yes, American fire hydrants are very different from NZ ones too. Ours are under a yellow steel panel flush with the ground, so not something self-driving cars need to identify.

U.K. firefighters connect to something similar, but they are unpainted metal panels on the ground, and while there are ways to distinguish them from the other ground-level utility access covers (and nearby signs) nobody bothered to teach them to me either in school or during driving lessons.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by Maximus9000 »

alias_neo wrote: post #393
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They could just ask to decypher one of those parking signs as well: http://www.polisassist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/confus...

I'm not American, and I agree there is a lot of information there, but it seems reasonably sane if you read through it. I don't see any obvious contradictions. You can't park 11-1 tuesday due to street cleaning. You can't stop there mon-fri 7:30-16:00 with the exception of 7:30-8 for school business (dropping the kids off). You can park mon-fri between 4 and 6, once per day, per district (to pick up your kids after s…

Even so, it's easy to make a mistake with that much information so poorly organized. There are better alternatives out there, like this:

https://www.lamag.com/driver/hidden-costs-parking-signs-easy...

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