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CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by d_theorist »

lenlorijn wrote: post #53
d_theorist wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. I am from the UK. Taxis are not yellow. “Cross-walks” are called zebra crossings etc But come on. It’s easy to figure these things out. This is an invented problem.

Do you think your culture might be close enough to the US that your opinion is biased in a certain way?

Maybe. But I think the better question is whether there is any evidence that anybody is actually confused what what a taxi is to the point where they are unable to answer these things. I am skeptical.

I understand people being annoyed by US-centrism, but that is a different matter.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by mschuster91 »

yread wrote: post #160
dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #14

To add some balance, they should include "identify all the roundabouts" so that folk from the USA are equally disadvantaged.

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Distinguish realsozialismus from what Americans think socialism is and from what was intended by Marx and Engels..

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by AntiImperialist »

ojosilva wrote: post #65
AntiImperialist wrote: post #42

I deliberately give some wrong answers to CAPTCHA questions. A lot of the times, it is accepted.

I think captchas are weighting in your natural human responses, which may include your mistakes (which are human), mouse/pointer movements and actions and timing of your answer.

You're partially right. Yes, the captchas do include mouse movements, screen res, IP and a WHOLE LOT of information to try to decide if you're a human... but it was sure based on just that, it wouldn't show the images anyway. It would silently accept me.

It shows the picture selection test ONLY if it is not sure (based on the rest of the data) that I am indeed a human.

When it shows those many different images, it already knows with high certainty (based on majority of user input) that some of them have cars (or whatever) and some that don't. It also shows a few for which it doesn't know because they're using us for training in the first place.

As long as you get the ones it knows with high certainty right, it doesn't matter what you answer on the other ones.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by Debug_Overload »

aloisdg wrote: post #109
zeepzeep wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let Googles AI solve Googles CAPTCHAs for you! "Buster: Captcha Solver for Humans" is one of my top 3 browser extensions.

So we have "Buster: Captcha Solver for Humans", "uBlock Origin" and what is the last one?

For me, it's Dark Reader. I can't browse the web without it.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by mkl »

mschuster91 wrote: post #198
mkl wrote: post #106

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Yes, American fire hydrants are very different from NZ ones too. Ours are under a yellow steel panel flush with the ground, so not something self-driving cars need to identify.

> Ours are under a yellow steel panel flush with the ground, so not something self-driving cars need to identify. Why not? I would suppose it's forbidden to park over these, so identifying them makes sense.

True. Many are not in places you park though, as they're out in the road or on the footpath or grass verge.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by josephduffy »

nottorp wrote: post #195

Here's a different but similar whine. Probably worth its own blog post except I don't blog. Dear Apple, can you test your products outside California? I just left my laptop for 10 minutes on the balcony because I had to get a delivery. Because I'm not in California, the temperature on said balcony is 3 Celsius. Yes, I'm not american and I don't understand Fahrenheit. Guess what, when I came back the laptop was shutdo…

I agree working in a wider range of ambient temperatures would be nice, but they do have a support article stating the temperature should be over 10°C, so I wouldn't say they've not tested it.

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201640

Note that the iOS devices work from above 0°C (https://support.apple.com/en-sg/HT201678) so maybe improvements will be brought to laptops too.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by soco »

croon wrote: post #98
sabret00the wrote: post #24

Google's CAPTCHA is a cancer of the internet. We're all training their AI without any renumeration. I genuinely hope that some government figures out how to sue them. I've sat down for minutes, repeating CAPTCHAs over and over again, just to log in to an account or download something.

I absolutely don't aim to defend Googles captcha here, but the other day I was setting up an Outlook account for my son, and I ran into Arkose Labs bot detection, and I actually got heatedly angry, which is extremely rare for me. I wanted to punch anyone related to that abomination. Upon researching it seems to be used by the Epic launcher and Roblox (among others), which might explain why I've never encountered it b…

As other comments said, I'd just drop it and go somewhere else. If the website believes they're Fort Knox, let them have the same amount of traffic.

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Post by kthxbye123 »

joijoiwejrr wrote: post #104
awalton wrote: post #73

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I'm old enough to remember when reCAPTCHA was first introduced to help with deciphering text from OCR'd books. At that time, it didn't feel so bad answering those, as we were using our intelligence to genuinely help preserve our cultural history. It then switched to being numbers on buildings and street signs, and it immediately felt worse - we were now doing a job for Google, and an annoying one. Mechanical Turk fro…

I used to have fun filling in those reCAPTCHAs with incorrect answers. They would show you two words, and it was always obvious which word was the actual CAPTCHA test and which was the OCR input, because the former would be warped into a funny shape while the latter was always a rectangular block of normal text. So I'd type in the correct answer for the warped word, and something like "fuckface" or "cocksucker" for t…

What a sad way to indulge the urge for petty vandalism. At least graffiti carries some risk and sex appeal.

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Post by philshem »

yorwba wrote: post #136
artichokes wrote: post #116

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Those aren't anything like the sort of questions involved in IQ tests. IQ tests rarely involve words at all, usually a series of geometric shapes where you're supposed to pick the next one.

Not in 1971 when the lawsuit was filed. Now they use picture-based tests because those are supposedly less dependent on learned knowledge. (Though I find that many Raven's progressive matrices-type questions are a lot easier if you know about symmetry groups and XOR.)

thanks for pointing out the year. I've updated my grandparent comment to include 1971
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