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Diego Maradona has died

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Re: Diego Maradona has died

#182
post #42

Not sure why this is here (don't follow soccer and never heard of Maradona), but the "Hand of God" incident is an entertaining read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_hand_of_God and watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ccNkksrfls On second thought, this was probably a hack of sorts.

It's interesting that you've never heard of one of the most famous people in the world. Probably a reflection of insular American media perhaps. It doesn't work in reverse, Babe Ruth was one of the most famous people in the world even though most people around the world don't follow baseball.

It would be even more interesting to compile a list of the world's most famous people that most of the world's people have not heard of.

My point is that a person can be very famous around the world and still not known by many people. Parochialism doesn't need to be invoked, just math.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

#184

This is sad. Maradona was a distinct part of my childhood growing up in Eastern Europe where soccer heroes were practically worshipped. Following Pelé, of course. A trip down memory lane... RiP. His best goals (according to YT): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XegYZ8y3xMY&ab_channel=FIFAT...

Same thing in Western Europe ;-)

Re: Diego Maradona has died

#185

While a great football player, also serial abuser of minors. He had sex [and offspring] with many girls between 10 and 12. Even took pictures on the spot with some of them. Argentina is have a three day duel for this guy, portrayed as a hero, with honorific status. As someone born in Argentina, I can't help feeling disgust and shame on this.

> He had sex [and offspring] with many girls between 10 and 12. Even took pictures on the spot with some of them.

This is false.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

#186

While a great football player, also serial abuser of minors. He had sex [and offspring] with many girls between 10 and 12. Even took pictures on the spot with some of them. Argentina is have a three day duel for this guy, portrayed as a hero, with honorific status. As someone born in Argentina, I can't help feeling disgust and shame on this.

> He had sex [and offspring] with many girls between 10 and 12. Do you have a link for that? I can't find that in Wikipedia. If is well known he had a lot of affairs and extramarital children, but I don't remember something like this.

I've been looking for a citation too, but either it's just late or I've gotten worse at searching things. Hope OP responds.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

#187

I’m from Argentina, this is a big deal for us. But I’d have never expected to see it in the front page of HN.

And I also didn't expect everyone abroad to respect Diego so much in this day and age. I think with his passing I'm getting to experience something that my generation has never experienced before, which is a glimpse into how the international community respects a part of Argentinian culture that is not grilled meat or Patagonia.

My heart is also kinda warmed by the fact he left us the same day Fidel did.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

#188
post #151

In case someone has not seen the second goal against England in 1986 Original footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wVho3I0NtU An interview many years later: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOz2uGMTA2w

Can someone explain to a soccer novice why this goal is special? It looks similar to lots of others to my untrained eye.

If you ran for a few meters and tried to control a ball at your feet, you'd understand somewhat. Even that is extremely difficult to do well- shifting the ball and keeping it under control of your feet and away from defenders.

Now try to imagine people trying to hack you down (totally normal defending back then) and tugging your shirt, in the blazing heat, at altitude, against a team that humiliated your country in a war a few years earlier...and instead you waltz around all of them, make them look amateurish, and knock them out of the biggest sports tournament on the planet at a sport they invented.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

#189
post #151

In case someone has not seen the second goal against England in 1986 Original footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wVho3I0NtU An interview many years later: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOz2uGMTA2w

Can someone explain to a soccer novice why this goal is special? It looks similar to lots of others to my untrained eye.

The other thing to remember was that according to Gary Lineker the pitch was absolutely terrible.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

#190
post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not criticizing or sneering, but I am astonished that there are people that have never heard of Maradona.

> I am astonished that there are people that have never heard of Maradona. Why would anyone who doesn't follow one very specific sport have heard of that person? Stop being parochial. I never have, but I don't follow rugby.

He doesn't play rugby -- he plays a sport that is arguably the most popular sport outside of the US.
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