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hCaptcha now runs on fifteen percent of the internet

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Re: hCaptcha now runs on fifteen percent of the internet

#51
As someone who scrapes, captcha's are pretty silly. One of the sites we scrape implemented hCaptcha, and it was a breeze to get around. There are a few things that make my life more difficult, but captchas aren't one of them, and nothing can stop scraping altogether.

Re: hCaptcha now runs on fifteen percent of the internet

#52
post #11

I think it's great. So many sites sit behind Cloudflare now and Cloudflare now uses hCaptcha, which is a big win. And the hCaptchas themselves are easy to complete. No more wondering if you actually clicked on 'all' the traffic lights anymore, yay! I inspected the source code of Google's reCaptcha offering and was disgusted at how many bits of information they were collecting. They also seem to be fingerprinting user…

I've had hCaptcha recheck me repeatedly and fail to work at all on VPN. I much prefer ebay's simple slide the puzzle piece method.

Re: hCaptcha now runs on fifteen percent of the internet

#53
hCaptcha makes money by having humans label things to teach machines. This suggests that at some point, the machines will be nearly as good as the humans at labeling. At this point, until the humans are tasked with a different training exercise, a bot will be effectively indistinguishable from a human via hCaptcha.

If there's value in it, it sounds like a spammer could train an hCaptcha-defeating bot via hCaptcha.

Re: hCaptcha now runs on fifteen percent of the internet

#54
post #53

hCaptcha makes money by having humans label things to teach machines. This suggests that at some point, the machines will be nearly as good as the humans at labeling. At this point, until the humans are tasked with a different training exercise, a bot will be effectively indistinguishable from a human via hCaptcha. If there's value in it, it sounds like a spammer could train an hCaptcha-defeating bot via hCaptcha.

I think it's likely they'll add new types of exercises as this starts to happen.

Re: hCaptcha now runs on fifteen percent of the internet

#56
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

reCaptcha has also gotten increasingly annoying lately. I forgot my password to one site and tried about 2 or 3 different passwords and in-between each it asked me to do about 7 or 8 of those labelling exercises. I finally just gave up and left the site. Not only that, but the labelling exercises weren't clear. It wanted me to label a "公交車" which means more like a public city bus and there were also school buses whic…

Recently Google's captcha asked me to mark all the traffic meters on the photos, and amongst the choices was a photo of a mailbox. It didn't let me through until I marked it as a meter as well. Good luck to whatever self driving car they are training using this data.

What's a traffic meter? Maybe it's just important that the car doesn't drive into it.

Re: hCaptcha now runs on fifteen percent of the internet

#57
post #40

We've moved to hCaptcha from reCAPTCHA after Google surprised us with their pricing (blog[1], hn discussion[2]), and couldn't be happier. We use it in invisible mode and it does a great job at finding bots while getting out of users' way. Also top-notch customer support. The CEO was personally in the slack channel helping us. Highly recommended. [1]: https://blog.repl.it/anon [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id…

> We use it in invisible mode and it does a great job at finding bots while getting out of users' way.

Interesting didn't realize this was a thing hcaptcha did[0]. It's basically recaptcha in terms of tracking which sites you visit then, no?

0: https://docs.hcaptcha.com/invisible

Re: hCaptcha now runs on fifteen percent of the internet

#58
post #11

I think it's great. So many sites sit behind Cloudflare now and Cloudflare now uses hCaptcha, which is a big win. And the hCaptchas themselves are easy to complete. No more wondering if you actually clicked on 'all' the traffic lights anymore, yay! I inspected the source code of Google's reCaptcha offering and was disgusted at how many bits of information they were collecting. They also seem to be fingerprinting user…

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Re: hCaptcha now runs on fifteen percent of the internet

#59
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disclaimer: I've been an engineer at hCaptcha for a few years now building out the service. I'm just as interested in you as hearing about customer and user success/pain stories! > Worth noting that this title is primarily due to Cloudflare having switched to them from ReCAPTCHA, and Cloudflare is... well, relatively popular, to say the least. That's definitely a part of it, but we also have a number of other large s…

Your CAPTCHA accessibility leaves much to be desired. You require screen reader users to register an account to create a magic cookie that itself requires Safari users to disable security protections in their browser in order to use -- and then it doesn't actually work. Please do better. You're blocking off a non-trivial amount of the Internet to blind users. You will eventually be sued for this.

We actually spend quite a lot of time on this, and regularly work with blind users to test and improve these flows.

Most vision-impaired users have no issue in our testing, and it is a much more accessible option than audio challenges, which discriminate against those with auditory processing impairments.

(disclosure: work there.)

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