China delists all remaining poverty-stricken counties

Post by lordnacho » Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 4:40 PM UTC

Out_of_Characte wrote: post #67

tgb wrote: post #28

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While I share your skepticism, there doesn't seem to be much room for cover-up here (though I'm sure the initial outbreak was significantly under-counted). My understanding is that restrictions are pretty minimal apart from strict control of travelers. So either there is basically no community spread or it's likely to be rampant - and then the hospitals would be overflowing like they are in the US, which is much much…

Why do you graciously accept the numbers from the CCP while ignoring any evidence towards a cover-up? Do you actually believe the CCP has the pandemic under control? The amount of propaganda spread by the CCP trough their state controlled media is insane and wholly inaccurate. The CCP also conveniently put the blame squarely at foreign nationals bringing the virus over every single time. as if there are no cases of c…

Post by dirtyid » Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 4:54 PM UTC

SubiculumCode wrote: post #59

jbrun wrote: post #31

Not sure how many of the people on this thread have actually been or lived in China. I have lived there about 2 years and travelled fairly extensively. I cannot speak to these specific villages, but the amount of people lifted out of poverty in China in the last 50 years is probably one of the greatest achievements in human history along with modern science, medicine and rule of law.

Rule of Law? Really? I applaud raising the people from poverty, but rule of law? In an authoritarian sense I suppose, not in a human rights sense though.

Post by bennysonething » Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 5:01 PM UTC

dzonga wrote: post #46

SPBS wrote: post #39

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Could you elaborate on why it is such a great achievement? Seems like a pretty natural consequence of their growing economy.

lifting a billion people out of poverty, would be a big achievment in terms of economic planning, logistics and resource planning. those are no small tasks. also while maintaining social integrity. yeah, the ccp takes away a lot of freedoms, but how would you do maintain a cohesive society ?

Post by jbrun » Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 5:31 PM UTC

Nginx487 wrote: post #56

jbrun wrote: post #31

Not sure how many of the people on this thread have actually been or lived in China. I have lived there about 2 years and travelled fairly extensively. I cannot speak to these specific villages, but the amount of people lifted out of poverty in China in the last 50 years is probably one of the greatest achievements in human history along with modern science, medicine and rule of law.

> "...and rule of law" According to which law kidnappings, tortures and human organs harvesting are being performed?

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 5:40 PM UTC

bennysonething wrote: post #84

throwaway4good wrote: post #71

And now it is flagged ... gotta love hn on anything China ... Yes. It is the story of the century and a massive achievement. Testament to what good government can do.

Testament to what capitalism can do.