Keep in mind that CGTN is the English directed channel of China’s state controlled media, CCTV.
Take anything you read with a grain of salt.
China delists all remaining poverty-stricken counties
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#22Title misleading
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#23>moderately prosperous society in all respects. >satisfaction rate among locals was over 99 percent >About 1.88 million people living in poor mountainous areas have been relocated to urban areas >Various supporting measures have been taken to ensure that at least one person on average in each relocated household gets employed. Reads like an Onion article.
There have been independent surveys of China, you know... 99% is obviously an overstatement but young people especially are genuinely very satisfied with their national government (less so locally).
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#24What I love about Hacker News is that almost none of its readers are dumb enough to believe this.
Remember that a lot of us have pockets of specific knowledge.
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#25>moderately prosperous society in all respects. >satisfaction rate among locals was over 99 percent >About 1.88 million people living in poor mountainous areas have been relocated to urban areas >Various supporting measures have been taken to ensure that at least one person on average in each relocated household gets employed. Reads like an Onion article.
What's so funny about it? I've been to rural China, and it tracks with the improvements I saw. But maybe that's anecdotal, do you have more insight on the matter?
My country had 99% election approval during communism as well. China propably made some progress, but numbers are just propaganda.
If anything certain muslim regions are far from happy.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cite a reason why you'd think it's dumb. Denying that China has so far been very successful is a fallacy. Compare China to India, China was behind. Now it has leapfrogged ahead. It is yet to be seen if China can reach the developed country status, which would require dethroning the dollar as the world reserve currency. However, just because China has been successful in the past doesn't mean it will be able to achieve…
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That's a sad attempt at shifting goalposts. Even as an Indian, I can easily admit that China has done far better economically than my country. Their awful repressive policies and authoritarian government are bad, to be sure, but economically there is no reason to complain.
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#27'CGTN (China Global Television Network), formerly known as CCTV-9 and CCTV News, is an international English-language news channel based in Beijing owned by China Central Television, a state-owned broadcaster.'
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#28And they also supposedly only have 93k confirmed COVID cases. Not sure I believe this.
While I share your skepticism, there doesn't seem to be much room for cover-up here (though I'm sure the initial outbreak was significantly under-counted). My understanding is that restrictions are pretty minimal apart from strict control of travelers. So either there is basically no community spread or it's likely to be rampant - and then the hospitals would be overflowing like they are in the US, which is much much harder to cover up. I don't see how we can come to a conclusion other than that they've been quite successful.
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#29They define 4,000-yuan (about $609) as the national poverty line. Significant milestone. The average annual net income of impoverished people in these nine counties has risen to 11,487 yuan (about $1,740)
Presumably $1740 per annum in rural China is enough to meet basic needs.
For comparison in the US it's at least $12,760.
Still, it's a major achievement, even if it was achieved with some highly questionable moves - (forcibly?) relocating 2M people to cities
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's so funny about it? I've been to rural China, and it tracks with the improvements I saw. But maybe that's anecdotal, do you have more insight on the matter?
My country had 99% election approval during communism as well. China propably made some progress, but numbers are just propaganda. If anything certain muslim regions are far from happy.
Ah, the "China is exactly like 1979 Poland" gambit.
https://twitter.com/fullhomosexual/status/132880415416539136...
The downfall of the US is that we're SO CERTAIN that our way is the only right and good way, and it gives us blind spots.