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HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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Re: HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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Post by noitpmeder »

ryukafalz wrote: post #109
jedberg wrote: post #88

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People make this argument a lot, but the main counterpoint is that if you sell faulty brakes, it's hard for someone externally to exploit that on a massive scale. If you sell faulty car software, it's easy for someone to exploit that remotely on a massive scale.

How exactly does blocking car owners from working on their cars stop someone from exploiting them on a massive scale?

I mean if I sell faulty brakes, that could be easily disabled by someone doing something to them physically, it is still pretty hard to disable -everyone's- breaks. I have to go and physically, car by car, break them.

With sofware, it is as simple as pushing a faulty OTA update. A large portion of all the cars will _instantly_ be impacted.

Re: HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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Post by turtlebits »

thebean11 wrote: post #26
alfonsodev wrote: post #11

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I'm guessing being able to send any audio stream, for example your computer audio, so you can use Spotify or anything playing at your computer. Someone did this without the need of jailbreak for Sonos speakers, although it has some delay so was not good for movies or games.

You seriously can't do that on a vanilla homepod? Seems like the most basic feature every bluetooth speaker has. Re: the delay, usually for videos the computer will compensate by delaying the video playback to match the speakers.

You can for any Mac, however only to a single HomePod (not a stereo pair). It shows up as a system audio device.

Re: HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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mikestew wrote: post #65
1-more wrote: post #41

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I think you want en-IE; boy howdy is localization a fraught subject!

It's been years since localization has been any defined part of my role, so I thought I'd go Wikipedia[0] just to make sure I didn't screw it up. Should have gone with my gut because Ireland wasn't listed in the page I went to. :-( "I'd swear Ireland has its own code. But Ireland is in GB, right? Or is it just UK, and GB is something else? Aww, screw it, I'm not putting this much effort into a smart arse comment, EN-…

You've gotten some great answers so far so I'll just underscore that it's fraught. Maybe less so than "what do we call that language that they speak in what was Yugoslavia" and "are Hindi and Urdu dialects or registers of the same language or different languages." My favorite bit of trivia on this particular bit of political history is that James II of England was James VII of Scotland. You can start at Wales on here and follow the non-hyperlinks to the other parts of the page[0]. Compared to the weirdness in the past it's probably easier these days to make a non-offensive "list of countries and languages" and it's still hard!!

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_union#Wales

Re: HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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Post by 1-more »

messe wrote: post #56
mikestew wrote: post #36

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Oh, but that would EN-GB, which has nearly no similarities to EN-US. No way Apple can sell you a HomePod that would tell you to bring an "umbrella" because it is going to rain today. Though I imagine Apple is more worried about localizing the electrical plug than they are about what to call the large, wheeled vehicles used to haul cargo.

Ideally EN-IE, but I'd settle for EN-GB or EN-US. Although to be honest, there's no real differences between those three locales for most people other than keyboard layouts and the arse-backwards way the US uses to write dates, neither of which apply to a HomePod.

I'd like to think that speech parsing "give me the cra(ck/ic)" would have different results depending, but I'm not sure HomePod is really ready to oblige that in either case.

Re: HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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Post by turtlebits »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #38
dejawu wrote: post #28

I hope this leads to some way besides Airplay to play arbitrary audio with no delay. If Apple had just included support for Bluetooth audio (or God forbid, an aux jack) I would've bought two full-sized Homepods to use as computer speakers two months ago.

What's the trouble with buying any of the competition, if you want those features? You can get a Klipsch R51 PM for quite a bit less than the price of two HomePods. Better audio, Bluetooth, aux, optical, USB, even phono pre-amp in case you have a turntable.

For me, WAF. I have traditional speakers/amp but they sit in my office. Homepods are unobtrusive, and I don't have to worry about positioning/directing them.

While bluetooth would be nice, I find Airplay a much better option. I currently hate trying to use bluetooth headphones/speakers between multiple devices and having to go to. settings to manually "reconnect" them. (Yes, even with Airpods).

Re: HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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Post by turtlebits »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #48
ctvo wrote: post #43

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The aesthetics mainly. HomePods, for all their flaws, are very decent speakers in a small footprint. They blend in and are very minimalist, in my opinion, and that's important to me.

Depends on your taste, I guess. For me this is quite minimalist: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41A-xmDb8nL...

There is a reason they call those "bookshelf" speakers. No great place you can put them outside of an office or a dedicated space you can give them enough separation.

Re: HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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Post by 0xCMP »

xoa wrote: post #35
solarkraft wrote: post #21

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Jailbreaking uses vulnerabilitities, but doesn't (by itself, of course it allows the user to) introduce any. It even allows you to patch the vulnerability behind you before Apple does officially (see JailbreakMe, 3.0 IIRC).

> Jailbreaking uses vulnerabilitities, but doesn't (by itself, of course it allows the user to) introduce any. What? The entire point of jailbreaking is to leverage specific kinds of vulnerabilities, often only exploitable via physical access (a tether and DFU mode is typical), in order to root the system so that afterwards other stuff can be done with it more conveniently. Sometimes this even necessitates further se…

While it should not be inherently required, in practice it is. When not jailbroken the only people you can assume within reason to break your privacy/security are Apple (due to bugs or bad design) and Nation States. Apps, both private and on the store, do only what is allowed (which for instance, before iOS 14 was far looser re clipboard, microphone, camera, and location).

The option of installing a root cert now requires users to refuse to install root certs at work or for some App required to get cheaper insurance or whatever crazy idea you could think of. Users would need to know what is possible (at that point anything) and also have the power and incentives to refuse.

Re: HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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Post by thebean11 »

jb0x168 wrote: post #101
thebean11 wrote: post #86

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I might be misunderstanding, so if all I have are iPhones and MacBooks, this actually would allow me to play arbitrary audio from my devices?

Yes. If you use an app like AirParrot, you can do it from windows as well. Can't speak to android specifically but I believe there's an App For That as well.

Alright, being limited to certain devices seems less bad than being limited to specific apps like Sonos

Re: HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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Post by turtlebits »

p1esk wrote: post #95
reaperducer wrote: post #89

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It can. Anyone who tells you it can't is repeating some rumor they read on an Apple-hater forum or something. HomePods show up on your devices just like any other audio device you own.

No you can’t if you want stereo sound: https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5mac.com/2020/07/22/mac-soun...

Yes, very annoying. iTunes/Music.app on the Mac does support stereo though.
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