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Re: HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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Post by reaperducer »

alfonsodev wrote: post #37
thebean11 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You seriously can't do that on a vanilla homepod? Seems like the most basic feature every bluetooth speaker has. Re: the delay, usually for videos the computer will compensate by delaying the video playback to match the speakers.

Yep, seriously, I was shocked too when buying my first (and last) Sonos, there was a list of apps, and a list of FM stations that worked with the Sonos app, and some had arbitrary restrictions like Spotify needing premium account. I don't own an Apple HomePod, but I'm assuming the situation is similar because I read Spotify is not supported yet. If that's the case "The speakers of the house."[1] slogan might be miss-…

might be miss-leading for many customer that expect bluetooth speaker behaviour or a jack input

It's not a Bluetooth speaker. At no time does Apple claim it's a Bluetooth speaker. If someone wants to believe it's a Bluetooth speaker, that's their fault for failing reading comprehension.

I don't expect Apple to put a big red sticker on HomePod boxes reading, "THIS IS NOT A BLUETOOTH SPEAKER!" any more than I expect an electric car to have a big red sticker on it reading, "THIS WILL NOT RUN ON DIESEL FUEL!"

Re: HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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Post by reaperducer »

thebean11 wrote: post #33
Moeancurly wrote: post #30

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Which makes this jailbreak somewhat moot, for now at least. It makes more sense to buy an inexpensive Bluetooth speaker rather than risk bricking your $300 Homepod that has no data port

I'm so tempted to jump into the Apple ecosystem, but things like this make it really, really hard. If I buy a $300 speaker I shouldn't need a second, shittier speaker.

If you're thinking of buying a HomePod, I think it's fair to assume that you also have an iPhone.

So, what's the use case for Bluetooth here? Streaming from phone to HomePod via AirPlay is so superior to Bluetooth as to make it obsolete for such needs.

The only thing I can think of is if the kids in the house have Androids or something. Or do some game consoles stream to Bluetooth speakers?

Re: HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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Post by reaperducer »

alfonsodev wrote: post #11
alfyboy wrote: post #8

What use cases do you see this having? Just curious

I'm guessing being able to send any audio stream, for example your computer audio, so you can use Spotify or anything playing at your computer. Someone did this without the need of jailbreak for Sonos speakers, although it has some delay so was not good for movies or games.

being able to send any audio stream, for example your computer audio, so you can use Spotify or anything playing at your computer.

HomePod does this. I'm doing it right now.

Click on the volume icon > select your HomePod. Done.

Re: HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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Post by kevindong »

realusername wrote: post #67
jakebasile wrote: post #59

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I don't see how it is grotesque. No one is forced to buy these products, they can just as easily buy a competitor's or go the distance and build their own. I prefer to have my devices work with minimal effort on my part, and with "good enough" security I can trust.

> I prefer to have my devices work with minimal effort on my part, and with "good enough" security I can trust. I mean, everyone has their own acceptable definition of security, I also don't use Apple devices because I cannot check the security of it and any action I could take regarding securing it better means I need to exploit my device...

How do you check the security of _any_ device (e.g. Android, laptop, TV, watch, etc. basically anything that contains software that communicates with external servers) that you purchase?

Even with open source projects, it'd be a Herculean task to confirm that your purchased devices actually contain the same source code that's published (e.g. imagine trying to confirm that the firmware on your wifi card is actually what it says it is).

Re: HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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Post by reaperducer »

thebean11 wrote: post #26
alfonsodev wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing being able to send any audio stream, for example your computer audio, so you can use Spotify or anything playing at your computer. Someone did this without the need of jailbreak for Sonos speakers, although it has some delay so was not good for movies or games.

You seriously can't do that on a vanilla homepod? Seems like the most basic feature every bluetooth speaker has. Re: the delay, usually for videos the computer will compensate by delaying the video playback to match the speakers.

You seriously can't do that on a vanilla homepod

You can. I don't know why the poster claimed it can't. I'm doing it right now with the HomePod I bought yesterday. It shows up just like any other audio device on your LAN.

Re: HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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Post by thebean11 »

ralfd wrote: post #63
thebean11 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm so tempted to jump into the Apple ecosystem, but things like this make it really, really hard. If I buy a $300 speaker I shouldn't need a second, shittier speaker.

I have no great experience with Bluetooth Speakers, but the magic of the HomePod is that they use Airplay 2 which piggybacks on WiFi and has some advantages: - AirPlay uses lossless compression to stream audio from source to speaker. All Bluetooth audio streaming uses lossy compression. - AirPlay has the capability of playing across a much larger distance and with a solid connection between devices than Bluetooth. -…

I might be misunderstanding, so if all I have are iPhones and MacBooks, this actually would allow me to play arbitrary audio from my devices?

Re: HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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Post by dejawu »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #38
dejawu wrote: post #28

I hope this leads to some way besides Airplay to play arbitrary audio with no delay. If Apple had just included support for Bluetooth audio (or God forbid, an aux jack) I would've bought two full-sized Homepods to use as computer speakers two months ago.

What's the trouble with buying any of the competition, if you want those features? You can get a Klipsch R51 PM for quite a bit less than the price of two HomePods. Better audio, Bluetooth, aux, optical, USB, even phono pre-amp in case you have a turntable.

My computer speakers live on a bookshelf in the center of my apartment, so I don't want them to sound muddy from the side that they're not facing. I wanted the Homepods because they're omni-directional, they sound great, and I think they're really cute! I would've happily paid extra for that set of traits, but Apple seems determined not to have me as a customer.

What I ended up doing is getting two of the Bose Home Speaker 500, which has sideways-firing speakers. I leave them in aux mode all the time and arranged them so that no matter which side of the shelf you're on, the left audio will be on your left side and the right audio will be on your right side.

Re: HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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Post by jedberg »

Nextgrid wrote: post #42
submeta wrote: post #40

That it is necessary to jailbreak consumer devices is grotesque. I can totally understand that a car has a software / OS that is locked down. But a consumer device? - Apple is slowly moving the whole industry in a direction where in a couple of decades we can use electronic devices only in a way that the producer wants it to be used. Locking up systems, not allowing departure in any way, taking each and every freedom…

> a car has a software / OS that is locked down For as long as cars (and other motor vehicles) existed people have been able to work on them including on safety systems such as brakes, and the lack of widespread accidents because of this doesn't support the idea of locking them down now .

People make this argument a lot, but the main counterpoint is that if you sell faulty brakes, it's hard for someone externally to exploit that on a massive scale. If you sell faulty car software, it's easy for someone to exploit that remotely on a massive scale.

Re: HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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Post by reaperducer »

smnrchrds wrote: post #50
alfonsodev wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing being able to send any audio stream, for example your computer audio, so you can use Spotify or anything playing at your computer. Someone did this without the need of jailbreak for Sonos speakers, although it has some delay so was not good for movies or games.

Not even using a Mac? I am surprised.

It can. Anyone who tells you it can't is repeating some rumor they read on an Apple-hater forum or something. HomePods show up on your devices just like any other audio device you own.

Re: HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n

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Post by reaperducer »

14 wrote: post #14

I still love jailbreaking. I got an iPhone when they first came out in Canada. They guy who sold it convinced me to change my plan to include video messages. When I got home I realized the phone didn’t have the ability to take videos. Those who are unaware there just was no video app when the phone first came out as crazy as that sounds. I started searching how to take a video and to my surprise you can not unless yo…

the phone didn’t have the ability to take videos

It did. But you had to get an app from the App Store for it.

Apple's Camera app didn't do videos. But others did.

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