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YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by kevingadd »

belengthy wrote: post #272
Aunche wrote: post #183

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> I know there are several content creators (such as Jim Sterling) that have their videos ad-free as a perk for their supporters (since he's supported enough via Patreon). He's pretty angry about this change. That just comes off as entitled. Youtube is providing free bandwidth, hosting, and advertising for his patreon.

Or YouTube could provide a way for creators to remove ads. There is a membership program so people can directly support specific channels, but it has no option to remove ads for members. https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7544492?hl=en

Members still see ads? That's incredible. I just naturally assumed channels would be ad-free for paying members, since that's how it works on Twitch.

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Post by ApolloFortyNine »

moogly wrote: post #559
ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #554

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>So in that respect, it's kind of a shitty move by Google. 12 years of free video hosting with no ads and a platform for people to discover your videos is quite the deal. They always had to add ads at some point, hosting video, and the bandwidth and transcoding that goes with it, is incredibly expensive, not to mention the dev time going into creating such a massive platform. If you thought you could eat a free lunch…

I don't really understand bringing up the "hosting video is so expensive; poor poor Youtube being exploited by nasty creators" angle. It's a symbiotic relationship. Without content creators, Youtube is nothing. Without Youtube's massive user base, content creators will reach no one. Meanwhile, Youtube is the one making money over fist (4-5 billion dollars per quarter), so I don't understand why we should feel sorry f…

>Without content creators

Without content creators who refuse to allow ads in exchange for free hosting, is it nothing? Probably not, most creators do enjoy making money, and most of the ones putting out content for free, but without ads, will struggle to find a competitor who will indefinitely provide free hosting.

>4-5 billion dollars per quarter

In revenue, not profit. Very, very important distinction.

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Post by ApolloFortyNine »

mmastrac wrote: post #544
ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #542

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>There was a time when downloading movies took hours, or even days. Nowadays, you can stream via popcorn time for basically free¹. And a willingness to steal...

Copyright infringement isn't theft.

Illegal copying? Call it what you will, if you had paid for the Dark Knight, WB would get $5. Instead they get $0.

It's illegal and if everyone did it, movies would not exist.

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Post by paxys »

cableshaft wrote: post #4

I know there are several content creators (such as Jim Sterling) that have their videos ad-free as a perk for their supporters (since he's supported enough via Patreon). He's pretty angry about this change. I somewhat understand Google's stance on this, as it's a service that should be allowed to make money even on people who don't want to make money. They don't really have such a way to opt out of pretty much any ot…

I imagine creators like Jim Sterling would be even more outraged if YouTube asked for a percentage of their Patreon revenue or whatever they make from external sponsors.

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Post by ruined »

klyrs wrote: post #398
nineplay wrote: post #196

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Reddit recently limited the number of comments you can read in Safari on iOS devices. Click "more" and you are prompted to create an account or go to their app. It's been fantastic. Reddit comments decrease rapidly in quality anyway, but I was unable to look away. Now I'm capped - one or two scrolls and I have to go find something more rewarding to do. Thanks reddit!

I only read reddit when a search engine tells me that the answer to a question is there. Sometimes I'm annoyed that I can't read further into a thread... but I tell myself that anything in the weeds probably won't be a great answer to my question anyway. If only search engines had voluntary "I found / didn't find what I was looking for" feedback instead of clickjacking trackers...

If you switch to old.reddit, you can see the entire thread without signup prompts. For now, at least.

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Post by thereare5lights »

Is there any detail as to whether or not they'll show ads on demonetized videos/accounts and not pay the creator?

If they do that, that seems perverse. Isn't the purpose of demonetization to prevent showing ads on videos where the videos aren't conducive to showing ads? If they show ads on such videos then that seems to defeat their argument.

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Post by rdrr984 »

valehelle wrote: post #566

I wonder how this would affect the ASMR[1] community. They rely on immersive experience and most of the time at high volume. Now with ads popping up randomly people might not watch it anymore. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASMR

Good point. Meditation videos will also be ruined.

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Post by dmix »

hobs wrote: post #534
kllrnohj wrote: post #500

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Being eligible to monetize doesn't look that intimidating? https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/72851?hl=en Not sure how many small creators both can't manage that but can manage external monetization?

1000 subscribers? You can sign up and make more money from 3 patreons than 1000 yt subscribers, what are you on about?

Even YouTube made $3 billion in non-advertising revenue last year which includes subscriptions. The ad business brought in $15 billion revenue.

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Post by young_unixer »

I don't like Google very much, but this seems reasonable. The huge amount of engineering effort that goes into maintaining the platform isn't free.

It would be cool if creators could pay Youtube to keep their videos online without ads.

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