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YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by jokethrowaway »

koonsolo wrote: post #275
bsd44 wrote: post #118

As a content consumer I see this as a positive thing for me. A few months ago when YouTube decided to auto-add ads on all videos, my watch time on YouTube decreased by more than 50% since I consume all video content on either my phone or my tablet (where I don't have access to AdBlock), and I find the amount of ads I have to go through to watch a video so annoying that I'd rather not watch it at all. As a result I sp…

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I'm far from being a communist but I disagree with you.

You have a third option in this case, block the ads.

If it's possible to block ads, it's a minor weakness in YouTube's business model - which, don't get me wrong, it's a pretty good model for generating revenue with a relative small team (given it generates 5bln$ in revenue). If YouTube wouldn't allow users blocking ads it wouldn't be as popular.

In the same way I don't like copyright being enforced by governments (eg. DMCA, getting ISP to disclose data about their customers): if you sell your product so much that you can't find a way to understand and legally persecute which of your users is breaching your contract and redistribute your goods, that's the way of the market to tax the wealth you're making.

And I live off selling software (which gets copied and distributed on warez sites hosted where I can't touch them).

I'll pay that market tax happily, given I'm getting some marketing in return and stopping it would cost me more in legal fees than anything. What I don't like is paying for an inept government to steal my money, provide crappy service and threaten me with jail if I don't pay.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by tartoran »

I wouldn't be blocking ads if there weren't so many of them and they weren't so obnoxious. The day I can't use adblocks I am probably rarely going to visit youtube. And I'm using youtube too little anyway to pay for a monthy paid membership with youtube.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by wbhart »

This is not workable in Germany. There are huge fines for running YouTube businesses without putting business details at every location your video appears on the internet.

German State administrators have sent out such fines simply because videos made in Germany (even in English) which have advertising do not carry such additional business information.

These administrators will not know, nor care if you are in the YouTube Partner Program or not. They will simply send out the fines, which could bankrupt a small hobbyist.

This affects me directly, and I would have to remove my hobby channel from YouTube if they go ahead with this.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by shawnz »

eplanit wrote: post #219
bsd44 wrote: post #118

As a content consumer I see this as a positive thing for me. A few months ago when YouTube decided to auto-add ads on all videos, my watch time on YouTube decreased by more than 50% since I consume all video content on either my phone or my tablet (where I don't have access to AdBlock), and I find the amount of ads I have to go through to watch a video so annoying that I'd rather not watch it at all. As a result I sp…

It is superficially sad, but as you point out the 2nd order effects are really positive. Google has really done us all a favor by being actually more authentic: they're saying "We're an Advertising company ." (the period is said out loud). They are a tech company insofar as it serves their ad business. They're not a general tech company, and they have no interests or pursuits in anything else unless it is to develop…

> They are a tech company insofar as it serves their [sales] business. They're not a general tech company, and they have no interests or pursuits in anything else unless it is to develop new lines of [sales] revenue.

What's the difference from product-driven or subscription-driven tech businesses?

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by bserge »

nineplay wrote: post #196
bsd44 wrote: post #118

As a content consumer I see this as a positive thing for me. A few months ago when YouTube decided to auto-add ads on all videos, my watch time on YouTube decreased by more than 50% since I consume all video content on either my phone or my tablet (where I don't have access to AdBlock), and I find the amount of ads I have to go through to watch a video so annoying that I'd rather not watch it at all. As a result I sp…

Reddit recently limited the number of comments you can read in Safari on iOS devices. Click "more" and you are prompted to create an account or go to their app. It's been fantastic. Reddit comments decrease rapidly in quality anyway, but I was unable to look away. Now I'm capped - one or two scrolls and I have to go find something more rewarding to do. Thanks reddit!

Same, haha. Funny thing is I am logged in, Reddit just logs me out too often for whatever reason and fails to relog.

Win-win, I guess.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by xbmcuser »

Supermancho wrote: post #267
dmd wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Restaurants extort me to pay for food if I want to eat there. It's shameful.

Paying for something not to happen is different than paying for something in return. Obviously.

Ah no you pay the content creators by watching the ads with your time or the subscription.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by mohamez »

anoonmoose wrote: post #221
helmholtz wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It heartens me to know that this sentiment is spreading. I have some black and white rules set up for myself. The day Whatsapp stops encrypting chats is the day I jump ship. The day Youtube blocks access to those using uBlock, I'll stop going to Youtube. The day old.reddit.com and i.reddit.com stop working, sayonara Reddit. I've come to realise that a) I just don't derive TOO much value from any of these websites/ser…

In my opinion YouTube Music is more than good enough to be compared to Spotify and the other music streaming services, and paying for YouTube Music gets you YouTube Premium (no ads). I've always preferred Google Play Music/YouTube Music to Spotify so I'd be paying for it anyways but getting adless YouTube along with it makes it a great value, for me. I also don't know if I particularly agree with your characterizatio…

>I also don't know if I particularly agree with your characterization of YouTube as an amateur outlet nowadays

Yes, YouTube is an amateur outlet for sure, at least the majority of it, just see how many worthless information and popular advices there is in the platform.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by behringer »

wbhart wrote: post #353

This is not workable in Germany. There are huge fines for running YouTube businesses without putting business details at every location your video appears on the internet. German State administrators have sent out such fines simply because videos made in Germany (even in English) which have advertising do not carry such additional business information. These administrators will not know, nor care if you are in the Yo…

Can't you just put your business information at the start/end of your videos?

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by bserge »

ogre_codes wrote: post #328
bsd44 wrote: post #118

As a content consumer I see this as a positive thing for me. A few months ago when YouTube decided to auto-add ads on all videos, my watch time on YouTube decreased by more than 50% since I consume all video content on either my phone or my tablet (where I don't have access to AdBlock), and I find the amount of ads I have to go through to watch a video so annoying that I'd rather not watch it at all. As a result I sp…

Unfortunately, most of my YouTube viewing is not recreational/ entertainment. I use YouTube primarily for DIY videos, Home Building, and other similar educational/ Howto videos. I just don't see a lot of alternatives out there so I'm kind of stuck with YouTube. Preroll ads are the worst because quality varies so widely I end up wading through multiple ads for crappy videos. Is there a good resource for how-tos out th…

Honestly, sounds like a VPN in a small country would work great. Just tunnel through Moldova and enjoy a better Youtube and even Internet experience haha... Or just pay for premium...
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