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YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by anoonmoose »

helmholtz wrote: post #157
mrspeaker wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm the same as you regarding reduced viewing time recently... unless I'm extremely motivated, I kill the tab as soon as the ad starts. It's the same with sites that require javascript to view: I'm sure the content might be good if I whitelisted it - but most the time it's my cue to realize I'm procrastinating and should get back to creating rather than consuming!

It heartens me to know that this sentiment is spreading. I have some black and white rules set up for myself. The day Whatsapp stops encrypting chats is the day I jump ship. The day Youtube blocks access to those using uBlock, I'll stop going to Youtube. The day old.reddit.com and i.reddit.com stop working, sayonara Reddit. I've come to realise that a) I just don't derive TOO much value from any of these websites/ser…

In my opinion YouTube Music is more than good enough to be compared to Spotify and the other music streaming services, and paying for YouTube Music gets you YouTube Premium (no ads).

I've always preferred Google Play Music/YouTube Music to Spotify so I'd be paying for it anyways but getting adless YouTube along with it makes it a great value, for me.

I also don't know if I particularly agree with your characterization of YouTube as an amateur outlet nowadays, since there's just SO MUCH MONEY in some of the channels.

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Post by Retric »

0-_-0 wrote: post #51
Retric wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I find more concerning is many people will have uploaded videos with the understanding people could just watch them for free and then died. At which point YouTube is essentially monetizing dead people without paying their estates. Are people going to need to stipulate in their will to delete all uploaded content to stop crap like this?

Should the products of dead people not be monetizable? How about selling a Van Gogh painting?

If you own it sure. However, if you’re suddenly changing contracts after the fact that’s just theft.

What if a backblaze or other backup service just decided it the copyright on all uploaded files after 1 month of non payment and started selling people’s home movies as stock footage?

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Post by zimmen »

The norm is already getting to be 2 unskippable pre-roll ads, the creator’s sponsor read (not uncommonly > 3 minutes long), several badly timed mid-roll ads, and a post roll ad. The ads themselves are mostly repeats to the point that I’m getting an aversion to the companies and products they try to sell. Goolgle is clearly hoping to get more consumers on YT premium but that’s just priced too high IMHO.

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Post by ludocode »

vlozko wrote: post #79

I don't understand why people are up in arms about this. It's as if people want their cake and eat it, too. Yes, I'm aware of questionable practices that YouTube does, such as monitizing off of dead people, but I'm still astounded that people are upset about this change. Specifically, I'm referring to the expectation that one can upload a video - for free - and allow it be distributed with millions of views to the wo…

I'm up in arms about it because it's illegal.

Google is using their vast profits from an unrelated market, tracking-based advertising, in order to subsidize their product in this market, that of video-streaming services. This is a textbook antitrust violation [1].

It is against the law to price a product below your costs in order to kill off your competitors and then jack up the prices later. This is what they have done by making it ad free for years, only to now force ads on everyone and upsell us to premium.

These laws exist to protect you, the consumer, by ensuring there is proper market competition for your goods and services. You should be up in arms about it because Google has illegally destroyed this market. This is why there are no competitors to YouTube.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predatory_pricing

(edit: replaced link to "Dumping" with "Predatory pricing" since that's probably a better description of the law being broken)

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Post by flightless »

Man I miss the old youtube, you can hardly find those cool zero budget "filmed on dad's camcorder" kind of videos anymore with all of the high budget 10 minute production videos being dumped onto it. I've had to start watching at 1.25x speed, I think they slow some videos down to hit the 10 minute mark. Youtube sucks.

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Post by athenot »

bsd44 wrote: post #118

As a content consumer I see this as a positive thing for me. A few months ago when YouTube decided to auto-add ads on all videos, my watch time on YouTube decreased by more than 50% since I consume all video content on either my phone or my tablet (where I don't have access to AdBlock), and I find the amount of ads I have to go through to watch a video so annoying that I'd rather not watch it at all. As a result I sp…

I've noticed the same. When I go looking for some video on youtube, I first pause, prepare my query in my mind and then open youtube & rush to type what I prepared, sift quickly and try to find what I'm looking for, then close the tab/quit the app when I'm done. It's the same feeling as dashing into a hostile store trying to upsell you on stuff and waste your time, when all you needed is 1 thing.

For actual video hosting, assuming ad revenue is not desired, Vimeo seems pretty good.

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Post by quaffapint »

8ytecoder wrote: post #167
bsd44 wrote: post #118

As a content consumer I see this as a positive thing for me. A few months ago when YouTube decided to auto-add ads on all videos, my watch time on YouTube decreased by more than 50% since I consume all video content on either my phone or my tablet (where I don't have access to AdBlock), and I find the amount of ads I have to go through to watch a video so annoying that I'd rather not watch it at all. As a result I sp…

Have you considered paying for YouTube Premium?

You have to pick and choose among them and the million other subscriptions though and they aren't the cheapest. If you watch it enough then I suppose it makes sense. Let's just go back to cable with one known cost.

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Post by kikokikokiko »

phasnox wrote: post #215
bsd44 wrote: post #118

As a content consumer I see this as a positive thing for me. A few months ago when YouTube decided to auto-add ads on all videos, my watch time on YouTube decreased by more than 50% since I consume all video content on either my phone or my tablet (where I don't have access to AdBlock), and I find the amount of ads I have to go through to watch a video so annoying that I'd rather not watch it at all. As a result I sp…

Use Brave browser, or Firefox with uBlockOrigin.

Kiwi Browser is the best nowadays. You can install any Chome extension on it.

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Post by andrepew »

gtirloni wrote: post #78

Why not pay for Youtube Premium? We're often talking about how we would gladly pay to keep a sustainable product going on but people are outraged that a _free_ service is increasing monetization through ads. I think Youtube is great, it's where I find a lot of content, I use it a lot and not seeing ads makes a huge difference. Plus, Youtube Music is great value for the price.

I have a hard time justifying the price. It costs as much as Netflix, Crave, Hulu, etc.

These are platforms selling super polished content from professional production teams. Sure some of the content on YouTube meets that standard but most doesn’t.

I’m not interested in a bundled music service. I use Spotify and don’t wish to switch.

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