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YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Have you considered paying for YouTube Premium?

You have to pick and choose among them and the million other subscriptions though and they aren't the cheapest. If you watch it enough then I suppose it makes sense. Let's just go back to cable with one known cost.

Let's not. Because there's still ads bundled into that cable-model "cost". Anything I can do to get rid of that is a blessing.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Many VCRs had a feature to skip ads when recording, working solely on the (analog) video stream. They worked quite well using only the technology of the time.

I think those VCRs looked for the short black screen between the programming and commercials

Frasier had long enough black transitions between scenes to trigger the fast forward on mine

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Easy? Good luck replacing all your accounts and contacts using your @gmail.com email. You'll move to another provider but you'll need to keep the old GMail one around for a long time before you're safe deleting it.

Sure, you just set up forwarding (oh look, forwarding just became a paid feature in Gmail!) and then respond from your new email, and over time it will fix itself and you won't lose emails..

Definitely, the point is you'll have to pay Google whether you want it or not, if they make GMail a premium product. So it's not so easy to leave at all.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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I'm pissed, I knew this was coming. Google and "Alphabet" are bastards.

Will this be my last video hosted on YouTube?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUYrN0o-cfk | Hardneck Garlic Planted For High Yield.

YouTube doesn't give me any network effect anyways (all my views are from external sources), I was just trying to do good in the world.

What tech should I look at for self hosted streaming on Digital Ocean spaces and a CDN? Please give me hints as to what I should do from a self-hosted perspective. I'm going to "DevOps" a solution, using webservers just like I do for many of my web domains. Where do I start, I want to build it from scratch using open source.

ideas?

I already have the domain unturf.com

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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I get why people are mad that something that exists is changing, though at this point I've stopped being surprised when something that was free either stops being free or has the free offering diminished. This particularly was a very weird setup where if you didn't want a share of ad revenue, you got to use the service completely for free. While Google offers ad free YouTube to users, it'd be nice if they offered a w…

This sort of thing needs to attract anti-competitive scrutiny at some point. Give away something for free, drive your competitors away, then raise prices is a text book anti-competitive move.

Not really though.

Discounting is fine, it's done everywhere.

It's 'anti competitive' usually only in the context of international trade rules, when government subsidies business units to 'dump' on other countries.

Changing your price over time for whatever reasons you want is generally fine unless you're price fixing or doing some kind of illegal type of price discrimination.

The competitive bit comes in more due to the fact that G runs chrome and search and therefore will favour their own products, that's much worse.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumping_(pricing_policy)

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Hacker News User Will Continue to Run uBlock Origin on All Sites Including YouTube Even If Webmasters Don't Want Him To

I think technically it would be pretty easy for google to embed ads into videos in a way that would be hard to impossible to block.

Google values its monopoly status pretty highly. I don't think you're playing out this scenario far enough in your head.

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As a content consumer I see this as a positive thing for me. A few months ago when YouTube decided to auto-add ads on all videos, my watch time on YouTube decreased by more than 50% since I consume all video content on either my phone or my tablet (where I don't have access to AdBlock), and I find the amount of ads I have to go through to watch a video so annoying that I'd rather not watch it at all. As a result I sp…

Reddit recently limited the number of comments you can read in Safari on iOS devices. Click "more" and you are prompted to create an account or go to their app. It's been fantastic. Reddit comments decrease rapidly in quality anyway, but I was unable to look away. Now I'm capped - one or two scrolls and I have to go find something more rewarding to do. Thanks reddit!

HN has a similar feature, but it’s more of a bug

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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YouTube has a demonetization feature too. Let's say you run a programming tutorials channel that's too small to monetize and you don't want Google layering ads over your content. Just crosspost something like a Tim Pool video and hope the YouTube AI categorizes your channel as too toxic for advertisers. Otherwise it'll be interesting to see how the standard changes when Google is the sole beneficiary. That money is t…

They’re running ads now on channels that were previously deemed too toxic for advertisers, which makes me doubt that that was ever a real concern and not just an excuse to defund people who made videos they didn’t like.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Have you considered paying for YouTube Premium?

This was my first thought as well. Both coursera and audiobooks are not free or ad-supported. Would these paid alternatives be as attractive if they had ad-supported options? I watch more youtube than any other video platform and I am happy to pay the $13/month to be ad free. Is it a sustainable business model? That’s for the bean counters at Alphabet to know. For now, I am content.

I see people loudly complaining about it. I don’t watch YouTube. I went from a paying customer to ditching it entirely. But clearly everyone complaining love YouTube and are watching hours and hours of video. So why not pay for it? It’s more sustainable in the long run.
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