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Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

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Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

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Post by lucideer »

koheripbal wrote: post #55
burgerquizz wrote: post #21

Notepad++ is written by an immigrant (non-french native) . In https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/a-propos-du-tweet-contre-... , the photo says: "Please uninstall Notepad++ if you voted for the National Front" (he was assuming the xenophobic party) Each release has a message on what he believes in: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news

I'm not French, but even if I were and were a NF voter, I doubt I would care about his political tweets let alone uninstall the software as a result. ...as someone not involved in that political fight, I slightly worry that this will serve as a distraction for him in future project development, maybe lead to a broken release or a dev path and force me to look for a new tool - zeal often crowds out focus. ...but hey,…

> I persoanlly feel that publicly mixing work and politics is immature and bad for your resume, but to each his own.

I think your opinion here is a commonly held one, which I find increasingly frustrating and bizarre.

I personally feel that work and politics are by definition inextricably linked, and attempting to separate them as some sanctimonious attempt at taking moral highground is naïve (at best, insincere at worst). Which makes the use of the epithet "immature" here particularly ironic.

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

#92

Post by wtf_is_up »

javindo wrote: post #73
koheripbal wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not French, but even if I were and were a NF voter, I doubt I would care about his political tweets let alone uninstall the software as a result. ...as someone not involved in that political fight, I slightly worry that this will serve as a distraction for him in future project development, maybe lead to a broken release or a dev path and force me to look for a new tool - zeal often crowds out focus. ...but hey,…

Why is it any more of an issue in software engineering than, say, a singer or actor publicly supporting a cause?

Singers/actors doing it is cringe inducing as well.

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

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Post by levosmetalo »

koheripbal wrote: post #55
burgerquizz wrote: post #21

Notepad++ is written by an immigrant (non-french native) . In https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/a-propos-du-tweet-contre-... , the photo says: "Please uninstall Notepad++ if you voted for the National Front" (he was assuming the xenophobic party) Each release has a message on what he believes in: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news

I'm not French, but even if I were and were a NF voter, I doubt I would care about his political tweets let alone uninstall the software as a result. ...as someone not involved in that political fight, I slightly worry that this will serve as a distraction for him in future project development, maybe lead to a broken release or a dev path and force me to look for a new tool - zeal often crowds out focus. ...but hey,…

... unless you are in SV. There it's fully acceptable, and to some extent even mandatory to publicly take a political stance in bashing Trump and praising whoever is the Democratic Party hero of the day.

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

#94

Post by gadders »

acqq wrote: post #60
moron4hire wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what you mean. This was headline news even in the US when it happened.

Maybe more context can explain the "unexpectedness": from the New York Times article covering the event in 2004: "Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende called for calm and asked people to let investigators do their job before jumping to conclusions. " Nothing is known about the motive ," he said in written statement." https://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/03/world/europe/dutch-filmma... And even more context, the transcript…

The Washington Post is just as bad: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50205592

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

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Post by khawkins »

javindo wrote: post #73
koheripbal wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not French, but even if I were and were a NF voter, I doubt I would care about his political tweets let alone uninstall the software as a result. ...as someone not involved in that political fight, I slightly worry that this will serve as a distraction for him in future project development, maybe lead to a broken release or a dev path and force me to look for a new tool - zeal often crowds out focus. ...but hey,…

Why is it any more of an issue in software engineering than, say, a singer or actor publicly supporting a cause?

Those are even worse. Why can't we let political discourse stay in political spaces? That used to be the norm and everyone was far less stressed out and amicable for it. Now every space has become a battleground for sociopolitical discourse and we're drawing lines everywhere.

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

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Post by matt_LLVW »

eznzt wrote: post #64
burgerquizz wrote: post #21

Notepad++ is written by an immigrant (non-french native) . In https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/a-propos-du-tweet-contre-... , the photo says: "Please uninstall Notepad++ if you voted for the National Front" (he was assuming the xenophobic party) Each release has a message on what he believes in: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news

I assume an overwhelming majority of National Front voters don't want people like him out, they just don't want their salaries dumped and their teachers beheaded. Also, it's not the first time this guy uses his influence as the leader of a popular project to push his politics. It's getting boring.

As a french: your assumption is wrong.

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

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Post by DarkWiiPlayer »

secondcoming wrote: post #74
burgerquizz wrote: post #21

Notepad++ is written by an immigrant (non-french native) . In https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/a-propos-du-tweet-contre-... , the photo says: "Please uninstall Notepad++ if you voted for the National Front" (he was assuming the xenophobic party) Each release has a message on what he believes in: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news

He's no angel himself: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/apology-for-sexist-jokes/ 'Jokes' from the reddit thread: - If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, its yours forever. If it doesn't, you hunt that bitch down and kill her. - I'm not saying I hate her. I just hope she gets fingered by wolverine - If you ever wanna know what a woman's mind feels like? Imagine a browser with 2857 tabs open, al…

> If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, its yours forever. If it doesn't, you hunt that bitch down and kill her.

That's just awful. Yikes.

> I'm not saying I hate her. I just hope she gets fingered by wolverine

This one I find hilarious. I wouldn't say it's sexist either, it's clearly targetted at a single person he doesn't like, not women in general.

> If you ever wanna know what a woman's mind feels like? Imagine a browser with 2857 tabs open, all the time.

Again, this one is just awful. It wouldn't even be funny if it wasn't sexist on top of it.

> The reason women will never be the ones to propose is because as soon as she gets on her knees, he will start unzipping.

Isn't this also sexist against men? The main joke here is the "men just can't keep their pants up" cliche.

> I'm no gynecologist, but I know a cunt when I see one.

I can totally see this being used to insult a guy. :%s/cunt/dick/ and the joke still works the same, so no, not sexist.

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

#98

Post by neves »

koheripbal wrote: post #55
burgerquizz wrote: post #21

Notepad++ is written by an immigrant (non-french native) . In https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/a-propos-du-tweet-contre-... , the photo says: "Please uninstall Notepad++ if you voted for the National Front" (he was assuming the xenophobic party) Each release has a message on what he believes in: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news

I'm not French, but even if I were and were a NF voter, I doubt I would care about his political tweets let alone uninstall the software as a result. ...as someone not involved in that political fight, I slightly worry that this will serve as a distraction for him in future project development, maybe lead to a broken release or a dev path and force me to look for a new tool - zeal often crowds out focus. ...but hey,…

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Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

neilsimp1 wrote: post #27

https://notepadqq.com/s/ on Linux is an excellent alternative, but it lacks the plugin system and some of the tools from N++, which is a bummer. I still keep N++ installed via Wine, but use NotepadQQ most of the time since it starts up faster. Notepad++ is a superb program.

NotepadQQ was something I tried to use as a Notepad++ alternative on Linux, but what really killed it for me was the absence of the UDL functionality. Ended up using Npp via Wine.

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

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Post by DarkWiiPlayer »

ubermonkey wrote: post #79
secondcoming wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's no angel himself: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/apology-for-sexist-jokes/ 'Jokes' from the reddit thread: - If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, its yours forever. If it doesn't, you hunt that bitch down and kill her. - I'm not saying I hate her. I just hope she gets fingered by wolverine - If you ever wanna know what a woman's mind feels like? Imagine a browser with 2857 tabs open, al…

Ah, the old "he's no angel" method of sidestepping an utterly reasonable position!

The perfect amalgamation of ad-hominem and whataboutism
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