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Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

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Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

#71

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The founder of the project even said once that he didn't want anyone voting for the National Front to use his piece of software.

Makes me wonder if he's considered putting anything in the code to prevent it... Perhaps someone should test a few racist phrases with wireshark on?

Yes...because everyone knows that the best way to find out what open source software is doing is to fire up wireshark and type out racism...

Totally no other way.

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

#72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The founder of the project even said once that he didn't want anyone voting for the National Front to use his piece of software.

Makes me wonder if he's considered putting anything in the code to prevent it... Perhaps someone should test a few racist phrases with wireshark on?

You're free to look, it's OSS.

Answer: no.

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

#73

Notepad++ is written by an immigrant (non-french native) . In https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/a-propos-du-tweet-contre-... , the photo says: "Please uninstall Notepad++ if you voted for the National Front" (he was assuming the xenophobic party) Each release has a message on what he believes in: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news

I'm not French, but even if I were and were a NF voter, I doubt I would care about his political tweets let alone uninstall the software as a result. ...as someone not involved in that political fight, I slightly worry that this will serve as a distraction for him in future project development, maybe lead to a broken release or a dev path and force me to look for a new tool - zeal often crowds out focus. ...but hey,…

Why is it any more of an issue in software engineering than, say, a singer or actor publicly supporting a cause?

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

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Notepad++ is written by an immigrant (non-french native) . In https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/a-propos-du-tweet-contre-... , the photo says: "Please uninstall Notepad++ if you voted for the National Front" (he was assuming the xenophobic party) Each release has a message on what he believes in: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news

He's no angel himself:

https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/apology-for-sexist-jokes/

'Jokes' from the reddit thread:

- If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, its yours forever. If it doesn't, you hunt that bitch down and kill her.

- I'm not saying I hate her. I just hope she gets fingered by wolverine

- If you ever wanna know what a woman's mind feels like? Imagine a browser with 2857 tabs open, all the time.

- The reason women will never be the ones to propose is because as soon as she gets on her knees, he will start unzipping.

- I'm no gynecologist, but I know a cunt when I see one.

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

#75
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Notepad++ is written by an immigrant (non-french native) . In https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/a-propos-du-tweet-contre-... , the photo says: "Please uninstall Notepad++ if you voted for the National Front" (he was assuming the xenophobic party) Each release has a message on what he believes in: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news

Absolutely not wanting to diminish the success of Notepad++ among its user base, I'd still like to mention that Notepad++ is a Windows only editor, where the main functionality is actually provided by the multiplatform editor engine called Scintilla , written by Neil Hodgson, and published since 1999 under a very permissive BSD-like license. The first version of Notepad++ was published in 2003. Neil Hodgson also main…

> *the main functionality is actually provided by a multiplatform engine called Scintilla

As a former user of SciTE, the definition of the word "main" here is highly subjective. If you mean "more LoC", then maybe, fine. But the value in Notepad++ is in UX, which is an immeasurably better than SciTE's (and an extremely challenging thing to get right—I'm not faulting SciTE for lacking here, UX is hard).

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

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post #64

Notepad++ is written by an immigrant (non-french native) . In https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/a-propos-du-tweet-contre-... , the photo says: "Please uninstall Notepad++ if you voted for the National Front" (he was assuming the xenophobic party) Each release has a message on what he believes in: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news

I assume an overwhelming majority of National Front voters don't want people like him out, they just don't want their salaries dumped and their teachers beheaded. Also, it's not the first time this guy uses his influence as the leader of a popular project to push his politics. It's getting boring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uovt1sC3rtM

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

#77

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Politely disagree

Even if they don't the notarization requirement is a strong first step to at minimum a games console-style licensing program, or further integration with the existing developer program. It would be nice for Apple to not do this, but if they can keep their ARM chips highly competitive it would be insanely lucrative to do so. Corporations are for-profit entities first and foremost.

And there is another strong factor: stock holders want to maximize the profits. Apple has learnt how to earn from AppStore. So the natural way would be to try to earn the same money on OS/X with Mac AppStore...

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if they don't the notarization requirement is a strong first step to at minimum a games console-style licensing program, or further integration with the existing developer program. It would be nice for Apple to not do this, but if they can keep their ARM chips highly competitive it would be insanely lucrative to do so. Corporations are for-profit entities first and foremost.

It's no harder to install a non app store app today than it was when I got my first mac. So I'm not sure why this opinion is held so strongly. It wouldn't be lucrative, because all the pro users (basically the mac userbase) would just not buy one. What's the point in getting one over an iPad?

> What's the point in getting one over an iPad?

Better keyboard, larger screen, more connectors. And despite a lot of devs using macs, most of the userbase aren't devs, but are instead designers, artists, or just average people like college students etc. Most of those don't need third party stores, or execute any type of software outside of an apple approved list. Give them their specialist DAW, Adobe suite, etc. and they are content.

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

#79

Notepad++ is written by an immigrant (non-french native) . In https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/a-propos-du-tweet-contre-... , the photo says: "Please uninstall Notepad++ if you voted for the National Front" (he was assuming the xenophobic party) Each release has a message on what he believes in: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news

He's no angel himself: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/apology-for-sexist-jokes/ 'Jokes' from the reddit thread: - If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, its yours forever. If it doesn't, you hunt that bitch down and kill her. - I'm not saying I hate her. I just hope she gets fingered by wolverine - If you ever wanna know what a woman's mind feels like? Imagine a browser with 2857 tabs open, al…

Ah, the old "he's no angel" method of sidestepping an utterly reasonable position!

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

#80

I remember notepad++ from way back in the day. Haven't used it since my shift to Linux in 2006, but it used to be the only editor worth talking about for Windows. I was blown when I discovered column mode. I think I learnt to think about editing as an operation through it. It's carried forward to my vim usage now as well. I've seen Devs not make maximum use of these features and while I do respect their choices, I ha…

I just discovered Notepad++ macros today. Need to put speechmarks and a comma around every line? Record a macro, then repeat it N times. Brill.

I must admit, I have never heard the word speechmarks until just now.
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