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Re: Jimmy Wales on Systems and Incentives

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Post by calcifer »

WikipediasBad wrote: post #10
contingencies wrote: post #6

If Jimmy is such an expert on incentives, why are all the long term editors leaving?

The might be leaving to other newer alternatives like blockchain-based Everipedia.org or Golden.com (which recently raised from a16z).

Thanks for the analysis, I'm sure you're right WikipediasBad.

EDIT: Looking at both websites, neither of them seem remotely in the same market as Wikipedia.

Re: Jimmy Wales on Systems and Incentives

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Post by WikipediasBad »

calcifer wrote: post #12
WikipediasBad wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The might be leaving to other newer alternatives like blockchain-based Everipedia.org or Golden.com (which recently raised from a16z).

Thanks for the analysis, I'm sure you're right WikipediasBad. EDIT: Looking at both websites, neither of them seem remotely in the same market as Wikipedia.

Ah thanks for the downvote, you're very neutral and would make a great Wikipedia contributor. /s

How are the two sites not remotely in the same market? They are literally knowledge bases. Albeit, Golden is focusing more on structured data similar to Wikidata.org and Everipedia.org is focusing more on blockchain related content first with the backend using smart contracts/token incentivization.

Re: Jimmy Wales on Systems and Incentives

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Post by Vinnl »

savanaly wrote: post #4

I was interested by the following part: >COWEN: Now, as you know, Wikipedia is open. It’s free. It doesn’t have ads. It’s a dream of the early tech utopians. Why is it the only surviving dream of that kind that has persisted? >WALES: Well, it’s an interesting thing, and I’m not sure it’s the only, but it’s certainly the most famous and the largest. Can HN think of any other examples? Funny enough I immediately though…

OpenStreetMaps is a similarly wonderful project. The Internet Archive is mentioned every now and then as well.

Re: Jimmy Wales on Systems and Incentives

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Post by lapinot »

savanaly wrote: post #4

I was interested by the following part: >COWEN: Now, as you know, Wikipedia is open. It’s free. It doesn’t have ads. It’s a dream of the early tech utopians. Why is it the only surviving dream of that kind that has persisted? >WALES: Well, it’s an interesting thing, and I’m not sure it’s the only, but it’s certainly the most famous and the largest. Can HN think of any other examples? Funny enough I immediately though…

Most F/LOSS projects would qualify: quite a lot of unix distributions are old, active, big; gnu packages too; programming languages. Maybe you meant kind of social platforms and not just software, but imho they are just like wikipedia since usually a free software project encompasses some mailing lists, wiki, collaboration..

More wikipedia-like: musicbrainz.

Re: Jimmy Wales on Systems and Incentives

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Post by ThalesX »

WikipediasBad wrote: post #10
contingencies wrote: post #6

If Jimmy is such an expert on incentives, why are all the long term editors leaving?

The might be leaving to other newer alternatives like blockchain-based Everipedia.org or Golden.com (which recently raised from a16z).

I gave Golden a read when it first popped up, but it's backed by VC so I'm not sure how this model goes well with open access to data.

Re: Jimmy Wales on Systems and Incentives

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Post by AmericanChopper »

tunesmith wrote: post #2

I think there could be potential with allowing the community to moderate more of facebook/twitter. This is just based off of my theory that our perspective of who Others are is completely warped. We already know that the most extreme are the ones more likely to share extreme opinions, and that only some % of lurkers say things publicly, but even with that I think we're really ill-equipped to understand just how far i…

Facebook and Twitter already give every user full moderation powers by allowing them complete control over who/what they follow.

Re: Jimmy Wales on Systems and Incentives

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Post by zozbot234 »

cinquemb wrote: post #16

Tyler should interview Larry Sanger… Encyclosphere sounds more interesting to me at this point[0] [0] https://larrysanger.org/2019/10/ksf/

How is this different from what Wikidata is already doing? Choosing any Wikipedia article and clicking "Wikidata item" in the sidebar will lead you to a list of structured data about the entity, including links to corresponding articles in online knowledge bases, encyclopedias and other reference works. FWIW, all of this structured data is freely available under CC0 license.
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